Note: The improvised speech was held on June 25, 2022 by Wuhan Psychological Hospital. Lin Lin and Weng Lingyi sorted out, with some abridgements.
Chinese and American version lecture: Psychoanalysis Shift time and space in settings
Zhang Peichao
Psychoanalysis has settings, setting, everything has its settings, for example, we will not pick up the bowl from the kitchen and then go to the bathroom to have a meal. Usually, we don’t sleep on the balcony, what we do, what places, rules and its unspoken rules are there. Then, psychoanalysis also has its settings, its settings, and its attributes of time and space. Our discussion today will share the properties of the time and space set. Why do we need to think about this issue from the perspective of time and space, because time and space are a basic category of things happening in this world.
When we want to discuss something, we cannot leave time and space to talk about it. For example, if a cat is sitting there, such an event has no meaning to us. If there is such a passage in the client's association, we may not be caught and noticed by him, but if we present it in the following way, when I open the door and see the cat sitting on the dog's mat, we will be caught and noticed by him in an instant.
At this time, we saw that the cat sat in a space at a time, which naturally aroused our association. When did the cat sit on this mat? Why don’t cats sit on their own mat? Why do cats sit on dog mats? It sits on the dog's mat, where did the dog go? The dog is coming back after a while. What will happen when he sees the cat sitting on the dog's mat? So if we don’t consider it in time and space, it will be meaningless. Our settings are also within a certain time and space. We can use psychoanalysis within every time of day, especially in this current period when the online analysis is more popular. Due to the epidemic factors, sometimes our analysis with foreign analysts may be at 4 a.m. This is different from the time of Freud .
When a visitor always comes in the morning and afternoon and night, it is different. A visitor always hopes that he can see us at 9 o'clock. If the first consultation for our work every day at the beginning was 9 o'clock, and some visitors do not care about this at all. Some visitors hope it is at 12:00 in the morning, 11:00 in the morning, or from 5:00 to 6:00 in the afternoon, because this can make it convenient for him to delay it for a while. What about a visitor, always likes the night, why? Because at night he feels lonely and sad, but in daytime he cannot experience this. Many years later we will find out what time has the night time repeated for him? It happened again, and he was waiting at home for his parents to come back. Therefore, the distribution of such a time in every day means something for the visitor. Whether he wants to take the lead, light the first incense, or when the day is about to end, there are more reasons to stay for a while, and not be quickly driven away by the visitors below, or at night.
Then, when there are such variations in the day, we will have different understandings of it, and there will be various variations in each week.
Some people are more used to Monday because for him, the psychoanalysis he himself does is a kind of work and a kind of learning, so he is appropriate on Monday, and for him it is a working day, and some like Friday.
For him, analysis is a sign of beginning to enter the rest phase. Some of them like to put them on the weekends, but he can’t put them on the weekends because his children have to be at home and he needs to take care of them.And one day if his child is not at home, for example, when he is attending a tutoring class, we will find a very different visitor. Sometimes, the client's rhythm, his frequency, his settings, and the phase of time are very fixed. We are used to seeing a casually dressed visitor on Friday afternoons, but if we tell the client that we will be on a business trip this Friday, we hope to adjust the time for him once on weekdays. We will see a visitor coming from the workplace at noon one day on the weekdays. We will see him wearing a professional outfit, and we can hardly recognize him, and his performance is very different.
Above all I said are the time settings once a week.
Some clients will ask to go from once to once every two weeks. Generally speaking, if it is not due to economic factors, this will be a negative therapeutic response or a sign of falling off. When he comes every week, every two weeks, in fact he is looking forward to that time you are still imagining him, he is still occupying your space, and he doesn't have to pay for it. So this can be a kind of counter-control, a punishment, or a signal that I will go far.
There are also visitors who plan to change his plan from once a week to twice. Why does he increase the frequency once? For example, this visitor may need to bring a notebook every week when he comes, and he records it in the notebook that when he doesn't see you, he thinks and feels about what you think and feel. So, now he hopes that the above himself will enter the analysis space together. When the client hopes to see us more, it means that he thinks about us more in the space outside the consultation room. At a certain time, he hopes that we will think of them to the same extent. When twice a week, what does it mean to the visitors at the beginning? Is it a bite of extra rice, a buy one get one free, or this extra time provides a different space for his secret, which will not be discussed in a weekly routine meeting, so it will be more time, especially at the beginning, we need to think about what it has more for the visitors?
When did the visitor ask for else in his past life? When does he need two pencil boxes ? When did he need two schoolbags? When does he need two lovers? The frequency of visitors may continue to grow to three times a week, which is very different from two times a week. If you set it according to the next day, you will find that this basically forms a continuous and stable existence in the client's life.
If he wants to generate some kind of impedance, then the high frequency will make this impedance naturally resolved by the too high frequency. He has to uninstall it before he can wrap himself up. It will form a stable concentration of blood drug more easily than once a week. It is about to degrade but not yet degraded. The second dose is given, and then it is degraded again. It has not yet degraded, and has not exceeded the half-life of . The third dose is given, so this may promote its stable degradation more.
So what about three to four to five? There is little change at the beginning, and the concentration of blood drugs continues to increase, usually entering a rest on weekends. During weekends and during breaks, Friday consultations will be different from Monday consultations. This continuous analysis from Monday to Friday is like a period of life for him, but on Monday he started with BB, and when he died on Friday, he disappeared from this space. Every 50 minutes is a period of life, and now every five days is a period of life. These are in the setting, the regular variations in time. Well, whether it is increase or decrease, for the visitor, something may be repeated, meaning something. At the same time, for the drug we analyses, if it is a drug, the blood drug concentration has some pharmacokinetic effects.
Continuously enlarge such a setting to say that as analysis workers, we take vacations every year. For me, we will take winter vacations, almost a month and summer vacations for a month. So, when we take vacations, it is also a way to die for the visitors. Consultation, analysts die, analysis relationships die, and when we die, we come and see what can survive. No matter how careful you are or how careful you are to deal with negative treatment reactions, usually two to three will fall off after each vacation. Not just a symbolic death, this counseling relationship really died. Especially during the winter vacation, because for Chinese people, it includes the New Year. The Chinese New Year is a very stressful period, which is often the time when he needs an analyst the most, but we are not here at this time, so it is very easy to fall off after the winter vacation.
Many things have such periodicity. You took the winter vacation and then, the rent increased. You gave you a winter vacation and the company no longer existed. Therefore, during the stern winter vacation, it is easy for a relationship to die until this winter vacation. This also requires us to pay attention to what does it mean to visitors when creating a relatively long time gap every holiday? Does this mean abandonment? Meaning cruel rejection? Meaning murder? Or does it mean trust? We certainly hope means trust and let go.
Take a typical analysis case as an example. If his appointment with me happened before a certain holiday, I usually read the letter and see the first time, but start the analysis work incorrectly. Because the holiday is about to start, and your accelerator is not not added or not, so we have to agree to start a war after the holiday so that it will not produce a small seedling just starts to grow, and then the entire sun is blocked. When he enters a cycle, usually on the first year holiday, I will allow a certain part of the visitors to email me during the analysis period. If the analysis is on Wednesday afternoon, then it is also on Wednesday afternoon. You can make it form a rhythm of time and form a sense of appearance in phase, so that life exists in a certain form, even if the weakened form exists in the imagination space, but we will make an agreement in advance that I will not reply to everything and wait for me to come back to talk about it.
So I will make such variations in the time setting. Usually, what are the adjustments in time? If you have met him and conducted initial interviews, you have a certain impression of whether a person has reached the constancy of the object. Usually the object is not constant, you need this, and the object is already constant, you don’t need this. Usually, in the second year, we need to deal with a near-death experience that he may have about the holiday before the holiday, which will repeat a lot of things for him. What will be repeated?
When he was three years old, he was sent to his grandmother's house in the countryside when he was four? Did his father leave his home to work outside the country when he was five years old? Did he enter boarding school when he was 10 years old? When he was 12 years old, did his mother have to be hospitalized because she was sick? We need to think about what parts of the client's past experience will respond to when the time is cut off and stops.
When we come back after the holiday, we will see different visitors having very different reactions. Some visitors seem to have not stopped the holiday in the middle. They seem to be trying hard to tell you that this gap in the middle does not exist. Even if you want to talk to him, you will find that his association content is actually connected with the last time. Why does it cause a negative hallucination? Something that exists will be regarded as non-existent by the visitor.The client did not see the interruption that occurred during a period of time. So, what might this be repeated for the client? What does it mean? It is precisely because our time is limited in all aspects, within 50 minutes or 45 minutes. In each day, if it is fixed at a certain period of time, it will not be adjusted in other periods, and cannot be easily adjusted to other periods.
If its frequency is once a week, we cannot easily adjust it to other periods and other frequencies before fully discussing it. We cannot cancel our routine vacation due to the requests or even begging from the visitors. We cannot be satisfied because the visitors like them. We like visitors. We are very satisfied in this relationship, so it takes a long time and never disappears. The infinity of external time contrasts with the limitations of all aspects of time we set, a counterweight, and a tension. It makes it difficult for the visitor to be limited, and all kinds of finiteness he experiences in his life. He cannot always eat milk in his mother's arms, he cannot always pee on the bed, and he cannot never go to kindergarten. Conversely, if he likes kindergarten, he cannot stay in kindergarten forever. If an ice cream is not eaten in time, it will definitely melt away. What is Yanru laughing at?
Wu Yanru: Put it in the freezer, it won’t melt.
Zhang Peichao: Hehehe, if unfortunately happens, there will be a power outage, hehehehehehehe. A friend of mine bought a house by the beach and put meat in it. He used it as a vacation home. One day when he went there, he was surprised to find that the power was out of power, but the gate would not jump up. When he opened the refrigerator door, time stopped. Hahahahahahahaha. In the next week, every time he ate meat, time returned to the moment he opened the refrigerator door. Hahahahahahahaha.
Therefore, we set the finiteness of time, which allows various finiteness in the client's life to be projected on it. Whether we are the finites of frequency, phase, duration, or duration, they become daytime residuals, allowing the client to be affiliated with the finite, whether trauma or complex. This is also why we need to clarify the time in the settings.
Because if it is infinite, the finiteness experienced by the visitor in his life will have nowhere to be attached to. It becomes a smooth wall, and you cannot hang your coat on it. So, if you look at the time in the setting, it is actually like a human life. Our life must be towards the end of death, so it is limited. When children realize the existence of death, childhood disappears. So, he will experience a series of finiteness in this finiteness.
and what are the symptoms? Symptoms are the links in which we avoid limited fantasy. The sword had obviously slipped down from the ship, which was limited, but we made a mark where he slid down. We created a mark to represent the lost sword, as if it was infinite to us. As long as this mark is under my nose, I seem to be able to catch, hold, and maintain the sword I lost.
Do you understand this metaphor? An object has been lost, but we commemorate him with symptoms or pain. For you, a very important relative has passed away, but, in the simplest example, he died of a myocardial infarction, then you will have a cardiac neurosis symptom to commemorate him. As long as you can control your symptoms, like this bridge, like a mark on the bar, as if the lost sword lost object is still in your system. In this way, in a symptom way, you seem to overcome the limitations of time. Through the symptoms, you gain eternity, and you make death and loss an event masked by negative hallucinations.
So, why are the symptoms difficult to remove? At its fundamental level, it creates infinity for visitors.Of course you can understand it in narcissistic terms, and the symptoms come from Omnipotence's omnipotence. What is omnipotent? All-round is infinite. What is infinite? Time is infinite. By controlling and maintaining the symptoms, he seemed to live and live in harmony. So we need to inform the visitors at the beginning of the setup. Time is limited, our time is limited. Through the end of each time, the end of each week, through the absence of extra time, and through the absence of replying to emails during the holiday, the finiteness of the visitor is constantly presented so that he can practice his desire for infiniteness.
OK. For the above part, I first made some efforts on this point of time.
It is not difficult for everyone to understand that in the time between the baby and the mother, that is infinite. In the ocean-like experience, time does not exist. Only when it shows finiteness will it exist. Only when we enter the maternal time from maternal time to paternal time, then enter the industrialized time and informative time will we understand what our charges are. Our charges for bed rock, the bottom floor is our time cost. So we cannot work day and night for several days like the ancient shamans, because at that time time was not a commodity. For us, time is a commodity and it has costs. Therefore, as a healer, our own limitations are also manifested here, and we need to survive. This is also a reminder for visitors, a cruel reminder, and we do not need to avoid such reminders so that visitors can eventually live in an industrialized society that has been realized at this time.
Ok, next is space.
The analysis space we encounter today is very different from the space in the Freud era. Most of Freud's clinical practices occurred in his upstairs and downstairs apartment, in his cigar-filled space. Those who admire him must fly to see him no matter how far away, with only a few exceptions. Some of Freud's analysis took place in the park of Vienna . The analysis with Ferenzi was realized during a walk. Occasionally, Freud would reply to some letters, which were considered part of the analysis.
And today, it’s very different. Today’s teaching space, we did not happen on Workers, Peasants and Soldiers . After class today, we couldn’t eat crayfish. Let’s go to Gude Temple to listen to the chanting of the Heart Sutra. We just pretended to be in a space. One of the spaces in the settings is that it is a certain place or a stage where a certain drama occurs. The props on this stage are very simple, and its fixed assets are at least two chairs and a pack of tissues. Paper towels are an indispensable part of this space. Generally speaking, they are not big, but sometimes they are quite large.
For example, when you are in the Chinese and American classes, sometimes you do personal experiences, and the teacher may do it in the classroom. After everyone left, two chairs were made in the same corner. Sometimes, you meet your analysts, which may be the lobby of the hotel where they live, and you are speaking English anyway. Once I was chatting with my analyst, and suddenly I found Teacher Tong sitting on another sofa. Hahahahahahaha, the space is folded and broken into.
What does a space mean for the visitor? In fact, it is an uterus . The soul of the visitor is not one, but multiple. When his body comes, don't think that his soul has arrived in the same space.
Or, we should not talk too mysteriously. Using the personality doll theory, our personality is like a series of nesting dolls, within 1 month, 1 month to 3 months, 3 months to 6 months, 6 to 18 months, 18 months to 36 months, 36 months to 3 years, 3 to 6 years, 6 to 10 years, 10 to 12, 12 to 14, 14 to 18, 18 to 21, 21 to 35, like nesting dolls. Of course, its physical body has arrived, which does not mean that all the nesting dolls have arrived, and usually it will not be all.Some of your own in the dolls, they are in a very distant space. They listen through the flesh here and occasionally interject through the flesh here.
Are we analysts alone? No, we are also a group of dolls, but the new sets of dolls we have integrated into are the personality of our analysts and supervisors. Are all our components in this space? Not necessarily, some parts of our personality may have been out of our exclusion, and we have never allowed him to join this space. So, when the client's corresponding personality came, he found that there were no companions here and he could not experience the counter part here.
So, it is very interesting in this space, it is actually a series of stages. During the 50-minute meeting, it seems to be a physical space, but if you open your eyes, for example, it is a dazzling drama that keeps going. Sometimes you are talking, and it is a monologue of your personality. This space is a one-man show, we are listening, but we are not in this space illuminated by the lights. Sometimes the visitor is talking, but he is narrating another nesting doll, giving us the narration, maybe not us.
Sometimes the visitor is talking, but his two nesting dolls are talking. For example, the sudden pause of the visitor, which is likely to hit different actors, one who plays him at 3 years old and the other plays him at 35 years old. When we started talking about dreams, our space actually switched again. If it was a theater, it was very likely that a layer of veil curtain would be lowered, and we only looked at the projection on the veil curtain. Sometimes, light will also hit us on this projection, from different directions, and sometimes it is not.
So, from a spatial perspective, the settings we consulted are very interesting. It is also like time, the finiteness of time and the finiteness of space. It is precisely because of the finiteness of space that the infinity of space is actually squeezed, revealed, and dragged out within the finiteness. It is precisely because of this space that you cannot run around, you cannot really fight, and you cannot really have sex. It is precisely because of this extremely strong finiteness that countless infinities are constantly changing here.
Of course, if you have limited eyesight, you will feel that this is a mediocre conversation, an interaction that is not much higher than afternoon tea, but if you have limited eyesight, almost, if you have enough eyesight, the switching of this space is almost dazzling, visitors knock on the door and enter. Which person in the visitor is knocking on the door? When he is 3 years old, he is not knocking on the door, but his parents are knocking on the door.
The moment when you enter, who comes in, who stays outside, and you are still on guard against entering, look at you, which characters are looking at you, who are looking at you, and who have opened the door and went out. When the visitor sits down, who have their personality sits down? Which ones are still standing, and where are they standing? Who is looking around the house? What personalities stand by the window and look out? Who are the personalities who turn around and hold the door handle and run away from the room at any time. When the visitor sat down, a bench, his body sat at the farthest place, where did the rest of the clone sit? Some people may be sitting nearest. When he sits very stretched, it does not mean that all his personality is sitting like this. When the visitor sits up, his legs are shaking. Who is he? After shaking, who came out and pressed his legs to prevent them from shaking. Why can't he press it down after a while? When the visitor speaks, I will pick a paragraph. Let’s try it out:
OK, our visitors start talking: I don’t have any big problems, it may be a problem. I definitely didn’t come here to show off and I’m eager to get guidance from Teacher Zhang.
This is the first talk after the actor enters.Using your eyesight, how many people are talking?
I don’t have any big problems, it may be a problem. I definitely didn’t come here to show off and I’m eager to get guidance from Teacher Zhang. I have witnessed countless times, of course, there must be a number in general, and I just can't count this kind of opening. Push the door and sit down, talk, and slit your eyes and put them out to see how big the play is in the space. In this limited 1 minute and 30 seconds, how many spaces are superimposed in this space. The visitor is in his 40s.
I don’t have any big problems, there is a problem with me with problematic self, right? There is one of me who evaluates the problem above, right? Two actors came in, one seemed to have problems, and the other looked at him and the analyst said he had no big problems. The next third evaluator may also be a big problem. The fourth one, one he wanted to come and give a sensation, and the other one, he stood up and said, "Don't give a sensation, what are you going to give a sensation?" Another one said, come here and ask Teacher Zhang for guidance. So it happens very limitedly within 90 seconds within two square meters. Look at it, how infinity is, and we haven't considered the analyst side, how big is it.
So, whenever we respond, which one should we respond to?
I personally do both individual treatment and group treatment. The trick of individual treatment is that when doing individual treatment, you must make it into group treatment. The trick to doing group therapy is to make it an individual therapy. If you have watched a person dozens of times but didn't realize it is a group, hahaha, then you have to look at it again, hahaha, just in this space, if it is a drama stage, we have completely ignored the factors that have presented 6 actors as audiences, directors, assistants, and supporting roles.
OK. Under this framework, let’s understand what transference is and what enactment is. transference translates it into transfer, and some genres translate it into transfer, and I don't agree with transfer. In the Chinese word "英语", love is far more than emotions, and we even take love as the essence. Situation, situation, mode, and things, so it is not just emotions, so transference is an accurate and protracted reaction. When it is moved, it is not just emotions, but situation and mode are moved out together.
When empathy, it means that the visitor transfers things, situations, situations, moods, and emotions outside this space to this stage, and there may be many transitions. At this time, we are the home court and the visitor is the away court. We could feel that we were sitting on our sofa, the clock was spinning in front of us, our assistant outside, the next visitor was waiting outside, the takeaway called at noon was already on the road, and the coffee machine occasionally buzzed. So, in this space, we are the home court.
I discovered another situation. I was not sitting on my own sofa, and the clock in front of me was not showing my time. The coffee machine should have sounded, but it didn't sound today, and I didn't hear it even after it rang. I don’t think the person who gave me coffee was there, the person who gave me lunch boxes was on the way, and I felt that the person who molested her was already on the way. It feels like there is darkness around us. We are not in the home court. It is not that the visitors have brought certain situations, situations, situations, and things to the current space, but that we are all being taken away. The universe has moved greatly and we have arrived at the visitor's home court. Of course, at a certain moment.
can be moved with my superficial experience and complexes, but the trauma cannot be moved, so we have to go in person. Enactment is alive, visitors cannot move in, visitors can only come and move us away. I don’t think it is necessary to reject this forced away behavior.If we are obsessed with our current space, we urgently hope to occupy the home position here and maintain our continuity. The tightness and integrity of this space will never be moved away, right? This is why we can handle one type of case, but we can’t handle another type of case.
You will find that when the visitor can't move you, he will not move you either. so. This is also interesting. We must reach the space where trauma occurs. Whether it is my personal case, after I have some understanding of the client’s experience, I will ask myself, do I dare to go to the space for trauma? His dad picked up the stick and hit his mom in the face with a stick. The dog in the yard was barking wildly. Do I dare to go to that space? As long as I dare not go, the visitor can't move me, or he moves me a dummy. Yes, after I went, it was no better than the dog in the yard, because it would still yell, and we didn't even yell.
So, when the trauma occurs, it has the ability to generate wormholes, it has the ability to fold, twist, stick, and connect the space, and has huge energy. This is because when trauma occurs, he makes a huge wish during the trauma, just like a person who wants to make a huge wish to be reborn in the Pure Land before he dies. This huge wish, as long as he is stable enough, he can be reborn in the Pure Land. And in that trauma, he made a huge wish, which could drag people across time and space. Why did he need to remember it? Why does he need a flashback? He is constantly feeding that wish and constantly strengthening that wish. I cannot let people in the world not know that this happened, so the part of him left in that space, who was stuck in that time, continued to practice, sent him to walk in this world with his body, and searched for his masters who could save him in that time. This means that we must go there in the body, which is not achieved through transference, understanding of counter-transference and systematic interpretation of transference.
Although my personal experience cannot be compared with many of the people here, I am extremely sure of this point. Such trauma cannot be achieved by a systematic interpretation of empathy. You despise the strength. But you must go there and leave the space you are most familiar with. You must act rather than interpretation, Sometimes act out is needed and necessary. However, I am just ashamed to admit this when I observe that everyone writes articles.
Because this seems to be contrary to the central law of psychoanalysis. Therefore, in the dimensions of time and space, the setting of psychoanalysis provides a kind of place for such a very turbulent era, although unique, in both time and space, it is seriously limited, and it is severely limited. For a very special and sacred place, the sacredness of this place has become stronger in the contemporary era. When free speech is forbidden outside. Then the meaning, weight and effectiveness of Free speech in the space have increased. Therefore, how can we be the guardians of this time and the caregiver of space, protecting this limited but sacred space, so that life can be extended here, which is very important. Therefore, setting is not a mixed ethic of business ethics and medical ethics in the business era, but it still has a sacred dimension, which is becoming increasingly precious in this era.
We can’t finish talking about this topic for 20 days, it can be very detailed. However, I plan to end my speech, and please allow me to light a cigarette next, and then I will listen to our comment. Yanru, you make a decision, and then I plan to listen to your comments with Teacher Tong.
Q&A:
1. Regarding maternal time, paternal time, industrial time and informatization time.
Zhang Peichao: Ok, when we are in our mother's uterus, it doesn't matter how time is, because everything is ready-made, everything is stable, everything is available, and can be presented instantly. So, we don't need to consider that I'm going to have afternoon tea at 3:00 pm.Before I have a wish to eat, before the wish is generated, the umbilical cord has been sent, is it necessary for us to feel the time is not there? No, so, this is a purely maternal time. When we are in the arms of our mother, as babies, mothers are in a perfect mother, it continues the time in the uterus. When we only have one, it may be slightly lagging behind the umbilical cord, but the wish has been satisfied before we have this wish. So, it is necessary for us to consider the inflow of external time, right? It is also unnecessary, this time is still maternal time.
However, mother is limited, mother is limited. The mother gradually needs to return from the symbiotic state of mother and baby to her position as a social person. Sometimes she also needs to type in a document in front of the computer, and sometimes she needs to wait until the water boils before she can make milk. When time becomes limited, time needs to be characterized.
So, at this time, the time of maternality needs to be declined and gradually weakened.
The so-called father's time does not just refer to the father's time, it refers to the time that represents the shared promise of society. Chinese people pay attention to working from sunrise and resting from sunset. You pay attention to going during Grain Rain, you need to sow seeds when you are in the grove. You need to arrange the farming time according to the 24 solar terms. This actually includes the time of heaven. With this external time of heaven, the time of heaven is gradually given to the elders of a village. Then, it is gradually given time to men from each household. The mother needs to work together, and she cannot carry the baby forever. Therefore, gradually the time of patriarchality began to grow. However, in the past, people's living units were just villages or several villages, so just look at the sun
. In the era of industrialization, it was not like this. You have to discuss a contract with others, and you discuss a time to attend class. American teachers, Italian teachers, and Israeli teachers. I can't wake up on the morning of each other and sit here after drinking coffee. Therefore, we must have a fixed global time, that is, the information time. Therefore, these times themselves systematically castrate the maternal time, and this castration is inevitable. Ultimately, we must adapt to such castration. How can we achieve a good enough compromise in these two times? This requires our analysts to make a good compromise. Then, we teach our visitors to have good enough compromises formed. We have not lost our inner maternal time, so we can adapt to the current highly paternal and informative time.
2. About the physical body to go.
Zhang Peichao: In fact, people have the same heart, and the same reason. Why is this the case? Why do human nature show these commonalities? In fact, it also has something to do with what we are talking about today. This kind of physical nature connects us. When we lose our physical nature, we tend to have a lot of ambiguity in our thinking. When we can return to our physical experience, we will find that communication between people is not that difficult. So, why, he can finally get to this place in the dark, whether it is a classic or an autonomic genre? In fact, we have a common source.
In ancient times, when this wizard treated this, this, traumatized patient, he needed to become that patient. This is a big secret, and this secret has been re-told by Bion, becoming the patient, not knowing the patient, treating the patient. So today, the final conclusion is that we need to keep becoming.
The epidemic in recent years has greatly affected the physical nature of adolescents. When we looked at people, this kind of expression simulation was a whole face. Now a baby often sees only the parts around his eyes. Will his mental transformation be affected in the future? In the past, teenagers formed a good body movement pattern in a lot of exercises, and their dynamics in their own body are very strong. But now, they are all locked in the house. Will this affect the dynamic side of his own? Will his imprisoned self's imprisoned body also lead to imprisoned self? These are indeed issues of the times that we as analysts have to face. Once they are frozen, can they be dissolved in 20 years?
Wu Yanru: Another thing is that some of the problems I have seen are concentrated on going to the body. So, I want to talk about my point of view first. I just heard that it was Pei Chao. You said that light interpretation is never enough, and I agree very much with this. Then, in the psychoanalytical literature, I feel that this is not explained, and I may have a little reservation. Because, for different genres and different genres, even different analysts from the same genre, in fact, everyone’s views and practices are still different. It is true that you really need to reach the place where trauma is, but at the same time, I have thought about it here, because you have been emphasizing in the lecture, do you dare to go, but one thing I want to emphasize is, do you have to evaluate whether you can go? Can you go? Because it's not just a question of whether you dare or not. If you dare, but you can't go, it would be a bad thing for those two people to fall out together.
Zhang Peichao: Yes, yes.
Wu Yanru: So, I think, maybe because of some questions, it is indeed as Pei Chao said, it is not so easy to answer. In such a short time, it is just how to go to the body.
Zhang Peichao: Why did our real physical space not go? Does Teacher Tong have anything to say? Speaking.
Tong Jun: Oh, I think the word "Your physical body" is used to be quite generous. I will tell you my own experience, I will accept the analysis myself, and when I was accepting the analysis in New York. In fact, one of my analysts is not object-related, nor is he self-psychology. He is a classic Freudian. Usually, they are more restrained, so in the early days I would feel like it was like that, and you wouldn't be so holding or something.
However, once, when it slowly accumulates, there was one time when I felt that I was winter. The winter in New York was very cold, and it was like minus 15 degrees. After I finished it, after receiving the analysis, he thought it was near Central Park. I just walked through Central Park. He was on this side, I was there, I wanted to wear it. I walked over every day and walked through Central Park. That was pretty good. In fact, there were buses, and New York public transportation was very convenient.
However, I often walk over and think about it. One day, I walked to a river in Central Park, New York. There was a lake in the lake. It was frozen and ice. The sun shone that day, and the ice cracked. I stood there. I suddenly had an impression. A picture of me appeared in my brain. I felt that the freeze thing inside me was like ice, just like ice. I experienced my analyst. One thing was that it melted the ice like lying on ice.
I really have such a moment, just lying on the ice, and my ice melts. At that time, there was actually a reaction on my skin, skin. There is a rash on my skin, and it is the whole thing. Through this whole picture, I felt that he was going by his body, and I felt that he was hatching ice.
Then you know, it is a classic Freudian genre.So, I thought of my experiences that you shouldn’t go. Sometimes when you can’t enter, you have a lot of impedance, especially people like us, right? The more you learn from you, the more rational you become, right? When you really let go of the impedance, how it is like, when you really let go, you have to know that no matter how you learn from an analyst, he is going to go in. He must be a fusion thing.
Then, in the end, that's what I mean. Then our object relationship and autologous psychology encourage you to hold it. Your body goes. If you don’t hold it, you are actually a classic Freudian school of people, and he must learn it. Do you think Freud had no physical body to go? How could he get those things?
is just that it wants to develop, it must be, this is the feeling of exhaustion in our treatment. If you don’t go in physical form, where will you be exhausted? We were exhausted. In my Wednesday clinic, I was a coolie. Every day, our nurses got lunch boxes in our cafeteria. I usually eat very little, and I usually have to see two o'clock in the box lunch box.
I said first, I am a porter, I eat everything cleanly, everything in the place is not as good as the boxed lunches in our cafeteria, especially after the epidemic, they eat it cleanly, and they will make it for me. Why is it exhausted? You have exhausted your body's energy, because you are in the body. You are here, the more everyone receives training and practices, you say you can't support yourself when you defend your patients, and when you come to you, you don't have physical presence. And the more you train and do it, your intuitive system will push your body forward, otherwise what, do you want to support yourself? It’s impossible, you can’t control it yourself. What do I want to do? At this time, you have become personalized.
Then, I recently read a book about this information. It was also an article he wrote. He said that the analyst's intuition and the things he quoted from Kohut, because Bolognini himself at that time, he said that psychoanalysis also should quote the social and cultural views, which he told me. Because, my speech that day was collectively unconscious, and he agreed with the social and cultural perspective, trauma. So, when he talks about intuition here, he said, "You are an analyst, and you don't have intuition, you still have eaten a little bit of the wrong meal, right?" You should still have the entire potential to come here. However, he quoted Kohut and added his point of view. In his article, he said that Kohut wrote this way, his intuition is that in addition to some talent, you have intuition as a doctor.
He said that in fact, you must have this intuition when doing every line, but his final development is constantly strengthened with your training practice. He said that this intuition is the most critical for those who can become climate-driven people, or if you can be a good doctor in this industry, first of all, it is intuition. It is too late to wait for your thinking to come, especially when you are in crisis intervention. However, in this case, it can be suggested that physicists and chess masters can see any medical field of medicine. His intuition and this intuition have something to do with talent, that is, you always have to be insightful when doing psychoanalysis, right?
Then, you will receive analysis and treatment. We need to evaluate whether this person can do it and whether he can accept it. Then, however, what follows is related to your lifelong learning, continuous training, and your own practice. So, these things will take your whole body and mind to go, what is your intuition? It must be physical and mental, right? So this is a response to his body. Let me say that this book is called "Interstellar Wandering". Didn't he take you around today? The name of this book is "Star Roaming". I am doing business, "Star Roaming: A Guide to Contemporary Psychoanalysis".
Article comes from Zhang Peichao's Heart Studio, author Zhang Peichao's Heart-Sexual Workshop, author Zhang Peichao's Heart-Sexual Workshop 2
