On October 20, 1979, Zhong Nanshan, who was traveling to study in the UK, spent his 43rd birthday on a train on the shore of Lake Berga. Outside the car window was a big forest, and heavy snow had already fallen. Zhong Nanshan was fascinated by it. He thought, "What will be waiting for me in the future?" He didn't think that on his birthday 41 years later, what was waiting for him was not only the title of academician of the Chinese Academy of Engineering and the honor of the "Medal of the Republic", but also the tough battles that concern the health and well-being of all mankind.
On November 21, the in-depth interview column of Shanghai Radio and Television Documentary Center "Kefan Listening" broadcast "The Great Doctor's Sincerity - Interview with Academician Zhong Nanshan". Academician Zhong and Cao Kefan completed a look back on their own life together. "We didn't talk much about the epidemic, but chose several cross-sections of his life. I hope to find out the reason why he became a hero of the Republic today from his growth." Cao Kefan told reporters.

Picture description: Zhong Nanshan
It is reported that the next issue of "Kefan Listening" will also be broadcasted in , Li Lanjuan, , Academician.
Doctors’ great love comes from families
Since the outbreak of the new crown pneumonia epidemic at the beginning of this year, "What do you say Zhong Nanshan" has always been the focus of attention of the people across the country. From the loudest sentence of "Send all the most critical patients to me" when the SARS was raging 17 years ago, to the high-speed rail dining car photo that moved countless Chinese people in January this year, Zhong Nanshan, who has been in medicine for more than half a century, has interpreted the sincerity of a great doctor and the unparalleled national scholars with practical actions, and has won the highest honor of the "Medal of the Republic". Academician Li Lanjuan's face, which was deeply imprinted by the mask, also explained to everyone what is the most beautiful face of a doctor. However, "Kefan Listening" did not talk much about the epidemic this time, and family traditions and family education became topics to talk in detail when the program traced the "motivation" of Zhong Nanshan and Li Lanjuan.
"The greatest education my parents gave me can summarize in one sentence: being honest and doing honest things is the greatest education I give me," said Zhong Nanshan. In 1936, Zhong Nanshan was born in a medical family in Nanjing. His father, Zhong Shifan, was a famous pediatric expert, and his mother, Liao Yueqin, was one of the founders of Guangdong Cancer Hospital. In childhood, Zhong Nanshan was wandering in the smoke of war with his parents. After the victory of the Anti-Japanese War, the whole family settled in Guangzhou.
As a pediatric expert, his father Zhong Shifan is also dedicated to scientific research and seeking truth from facts. Zhong Nanshan still remembers that when he was young, he treated a child with kidney disease and was determined to be renal tuberculosis based on his clinical symptoms. But my father's words gave him a great warning, "My father asked me back, how did you know he had renal tuberculosis? I was stunned by this sentence. Because I really don't know what, so that gave me a big shock. He said just like this, and I think everything he does and says has to be based on."
In terms of rigorous academic research, Zhong Nanshan was deeply influenced by his father, but his sympathy for people was learned from his mother. One of his classmates was admitted to Peking University and had no money to take the train, so Zhong Nanshan helped him ask for help from his mother. My mother was in a dilemma, "We tried our best to raise your ticket money, how could it be possible?" Zhong Nanshan knew that the family was in trouble, so he forgot it, but after two days, his mother still tried her best to raise another 10 yuan for him and asked him to give it to his classmates who were in trouble with family. "You must know that the train ticket to Beijing at that time was less than 20 yuan. This incident still impressed me." Zhong Nanshan said that he has been working for decades and has always been able to unite most people because he was influenced by his mother. Regarding his current medical treatment and human nature, Academician Zhong said emotionally: "I think if they knew it, they should feel... they didn't support me in vain. This should be the case."

Picture description: Zhong Nanshan and Cao Kefan
If everyone was born as a blank piece of paper, then their parents' education was a paintbrush. This is the case with Zhong Nanshan, who came from a family of doctors, and this is also the case with Academician Li Lanjuan, who came from a poor farmer family.Back then, Li Lanjuan gave up the substitute teacher with a fixed salary of 28 yuan, and worked as a " Barefoot Doctor " in rural areas, which earned only a few yuan, was influenced by her mother. In Li Lanjuan's opinion, although her mother didn't know a single word of big things, her character set an example for herself. "She has always been helpful and will do her best to help others. She is a person who does her best to help others. She doesn't care about her hardships at all. She is also very hardworking and very simple." Because her father passed away early, everything at home depends on her mother. Later, Li Lanjuan devoted herself to her career and was also taken care of by her mother. These will also be told in "Kefan Listening: The Exclusive Interview of Academician Li Lanjuan", which premiered on November 28.
The power to change the world comes from desperate
In the program, Zhong Nanshan recalled the story of studying in the UK, and it is still vivid in his mind. When I first met my supervisor, the supervisor kept making coffee with his back to him. The first meeting of "face-to-back" made Zhong Nanshan know how unrespected Chinese medical students in 1979 were internationally. "He said that you Chinese graduates have medical school (education) abroad, and he didn't take you seriously at that time." Zhong Nanshan, who had just arrived in the UK, faced a language barrier. Sometimes he couldn't even understand the problem when he communicated with lecturers. Especially after he was arranged to study at the University of Edinburgh Medical School, his tutor's cold attitude hurt him greatly.
However, as Zhong Nanshan said, no matter how difficult it is, you have to find a way to get through it. In order to overcome the language problem, he even sent letters to his home in English. His father, who studied in the UK in his early years, would use a red pen to correct his grammar, and made little progress. Faced with the neglect of his mentors, what he thinks the most is the motherland. "I often think that it is not easy for the country to send you out, so you must find a way to make something. And if others look down on it, it makes sense, you are relatively backward. If you make something, they will feel that Chinese people are still able to do something." Their words are simple, but every sentence is sincere.

Picture description: Zhong Nanshan completed a look back on his life in the program
What made the colleagues around him start to pay attention to Zhong Nanshan was his effective suggestions and research on patients and topics again and again, and even worked hard. In order to carry out the topic of "The Effect of Carbon Monoxide on Blood Oxygen Transportation", Zhong Nanshan took himself as the experimental subject and took the risk of inhaling super-dose carbon monoxide, and finally came to a convincing conclusion. His results were published at the All-British Medical Research Conference, attracting the attention of the international academic community.
In 1981, Zhong Nanshan was invited to go to St. Balflum Hospital in London for cooperative research. At the Academic Research Conference on Anesthesia in the UK, he boldly challenged Professor Kerr, an academic authoritative of , Oxford University, with a paper, and once again demonstrated the strength and courage of a Chinese scholar. After hearing this, my father replied to him, "He said you did a good job and let these Westerners understand that Chinese people are not useless. After reading it, I felt very touched and felt that at this time, it is the most important thing for people to be able to make a sigh."
In November 1981, Zhong Nanshan ended his two-year international student career. In the past two years, he has achieved fruitful results, completing a total of seven academic papers and achieving six important results in the field of respiratory diseases research. The Royal Edinburgh Hospital extended an olive branch to him, but Zhong Nanshan refused the invitation without hesitation and embarked on a journey back home.
Li Lanjuan's desperate efforts and the behavior of giving up substitute teachers' choice to be a barefoot doctor have also made it difficult for everyone around her to understand. "They said you have something wrong with you. I said I have nothing wrong with you. I want to learn and learn medical knowledge. There is a shortage of doctors and medicine in the countryside, and someone needs to provide services for everyone's health." She said. Later, from the initial artificial liver pioneer to the first revealing of the theory of infection microecology, Li Lanjuan created many "firsts" in the field of infectious science in the Chinese medical field and grew into the only female academician of the infectious disease discipline in China. And now, at the age of 73, she is still fighting hard.

Picture description: Li Lanjuan in the program
Life profile of the heroes of the Republic
Two academicians, one is over 70 years old and the other is already in their 80s. Faced with tough battles in public health, they always charge forward again and again. Because of their professionalism and bravery, they are hailed as heroes of the Republic.
What is a hero? Everyone has different answers, but the public is looking forward to better understanding why heroes can become heroes. "Kefan Listening" can interview two academicians who are constantly running and even flying to three cities in a day, which has caused a huge response in society. Some viewers even praised it as the "king bomb" of recent domestic interview programs.
Just, Cao Kefan doesn't think so. He himself also studied medicine, so this year he has been paying close attention to the development of the epidemic. "Kefan Listening" has conducted four interviews with doctors related to the epidemic. "When the epidemic was severe, we invited Professor Qu Jieming from Ruijin Hospital and Professor Xie Qing, director of the Department of Infection, but they were purely talking about epidemic prevention and control, and were experts; later, they became Professor Zhang Wenhong , and they talked about the epidemic with individuals." He told reporters that in these two periods, he wanted to find an angle that everyone rarely entered, and simply wanted to talk about their lives. "They talked a lot about the epidemic. I want to understand the 'cause' of the traditional Chinese intellectuals behind their responsibility and courage to speak."
When he was studying for a postgraduate degree at Shanghai Second Medical University (now Jiaotong University Medical School), Cao Kefan's supervisor was the president Wang Yifei. Wang Yifei is an alumnus of Zhong Nanshan Beijing Medical College, the same group of international students when he was studying in the UK. "Before the interview, I had contacted Academician Zhong several times, such as being the host of the Chinese Physician Charity Conference together. I have never been embarrassed to tell him about this origin, but psychologically, I feel very close to him," he said. "In addition, his serious appearance and way of speaking are particularly similar to the character of the intellectuals of our father generation. I think it is not unfamiliar with them, so I think there must be a few clips in their lives, and the influence is more important to him."
Cao Kefan also talked about the interesting stories behind the interview with the two academicians. It is highly consistent with the academician's external image - although he is very familiar with it, Zhong Nanshan treats interviews just like medical issues, "very rigorous. He must first read the interview outline and understand the interview intention"; while Li Lanjuan is very casual, "ask whatever he likes, and of course we also talk very well." Compared with ordinary celebrity idols, Zhong Nanshan and Li Lanjuan, the two "national idols" are much more busy and harder to visit. "Zhong Nanshan and Li Lanjuan, being able to become national idols is different from most celebrity idols - the success of most celebrities is an accident, and like Zhong Nanshan, it is no accident that 84-year-olds can become so-called "Internet celebrity". Young people should pursue such idols, right? I think that their becoming idols is to establish a particularly good atmosphere for society." (Sun Jiayin, chief reporter of Xinmin Evening News)