This is the 1117th real person we tell
I am Yuzhou
(now me)
1994 I was born in a small town in Xingyi, Qiannan, Guizhou, and there are six people in my family. As soon as I was born, my parents went out to work. My brother and I were "left-behind children" raised by my grandmother. My grandmother not only gave me kindness, but also often taught me to be diligent and hard-working in life.
In my childhood memories, there was almost all my grandmother’s busy figure. When my grandmother was young, she worked as a stonemason with her grandfather, running back and forth with heavy stones on her back and forth. They used their sweat to contribute to the development of the town. After
was assigned to the land, with hard-working spirit and unremitting efforts, a 6-story building was built for the home one after another.
Relying on this building that grandpa and grandma have worked hard to get 200,000 yuan in rent every year, this money supports the daily expenses of a whole family.
(I was a kid)
Logically speaking, my family conditions are considered good among my peers, but I always feel that I am very poor.
Every time I pay the tuition, my father will not pay the money on time like other parents. He often only pays part of it. Let me find a way to find the rest. But what can a child do? I was always urged by the school to pay the tuition, and it was embarrassing. Later, my father delayed it for a long time before he paid the tuition.
I kept wondering, why did my father treat me like this? Could it be that he has never brought me step by step since he was a child, and he was worried that I would not be filial to him when he grew up, so he wanted to save a considerable pension for himself before he was old?
Moreover, the relationship between mother and grandma is not very good, and the atmosphere at home is quite depressing.
Whenever I feel sad, I will be immersed in Ayumi Hamasaki's singing. I dreamed that it would be great if one day I could listen to her singing. Listening to her song, I felt like I was healed and had the courage to face the future.
Who can think that many years later, I really went to Japan to listen to her concert.
(Awaki Hamasaki concert on August 5, 2022)
When I graduated from junior high school, my mother asked me to work in a factory. She felt it was unnecessary to read so many books. Parents do not understand education and do not attach importance to education. But my grandmother doesn't think so. She told me to study hard so that I can have a future.
In the year of the college entrance examination, I only got into a second-tier university in Shenyang. After half a semester, I found that this was not the ideal university. My inner unwillingness made me resolutely drop out of school.
When it comes to studying, my grandma has never been stingy, and she has borne all the re-study fees for me. It is my grandma who gives me courage and strength to support me unconditionally, trust me, and support what I want to do.
Unfortunately, after a year of hard work, I was admitted to the second-tier university that was similar to the original school. Grandma told me that I must not give up on myself or study at any time. After consideration, I chose automation professional .
I came to the vast northeast alone, sitting on the train galloping forward, looking at the big plain that flashed past, I prayed for a new beginning.
(I went to Shenyang for the first time to go to school in October 2013)
During my entire adolescence, I was only 1.62 meters tall and my teeth were uneven, which made me feel very inferior for a while. When I get along with my classmates, I am often ridiculed by them. I want to change myself, but my height cannot be changed, so I will correct my teeth first.
When I asked my father for the expense of teeth correction, he refused coldly. I begged my father, and he said firmly: "I don't have that spare money!"
I secretly swore in my heart: I must make money with my own abilities in the future and will never ask my father for money again. If you want to realize this wish, you need to learn more knowledge now.
In 2016, during my sophomore year, I had the idea of learning Japanese.
At school, I call my grandma every day to report my safety and share every bit of my life with her. When I got home, I told my grandma excitedly about my thoughts.
Grandma said with a loving face: "As long as my grandson wants to learn, I support you! I will withdraw money now."
When she handed over with a thick stack of money, the first time she saw so much cash, I felt infinitely moved in my heart, and tears blurred my eyes.
Later, I traveled across the ocean to work in Japan, and I could better understand how difficult it is to make money. At that time, I had only one thought in my mind: I must work harder and not let my grandma down.
In my junior year, in order to further train my speaking skills, as long as I have time, I would take the initiative to find the teacher to practice dialogue. When I encountered various clubs related to Japanese, I actively signed up.
listened to my classmates and was on the subway. I can meet many Japanese people by chance. In my spare time, I often take the subway. When I wait or in the car, I will boldly move forward and politely greet them. After obtaining consent, I will start chatting with them.
can only use one or two Japanese words to basically make the other party understand. I am proud of my progress.
(learning boxing)
famous writer Roland said: "Everyone has two lights in his heart, one is the light of hope; the other is the light of courage. "Only by having courage, I have a continuous breakthrough.
With the daily improvement of Japanese language, a good opportunity has come. In the campus recruitment with strong hands, I stood out and was admitted to Japanese companies.
That day, the teacher posted a Japanese company recruitment information in the community. There are two recruitment requirements: both engineering background and Japanese. My eyes lit up.
"Isn't this job just for my wishes? If I can really go to Japan, can I meet my idol? "
At that moment, my heart suddenly became bright. The persistence in learning Japanese in recent years has not been in vain. The distance between me and my idol is not far away.
I still clearly remember that on the day of the interview, I got up very early, wore a specially prepared suit, took an hour and a half, and walked into the venue tremblingly.
A group of tall, neatly dressed, and dressed in suits appeared in front of me. They were competitors waiting for the interview, which made me not I was a little scared.
(my ID during the interview)
But I still tried to show confidence. After communicating with the interviewer for 10 minutes, I was told to go back and wait for the news. The result will be given in ten days.
When I heard that many other classmates had interviewed for half an hour, compared, I was a little worried that I was not very likely to be admitted.
Ten days later, a weekend morning, I opened my sleepy eyes, picked up my phone, and a message popped up, and looked closely, wow! I was admitted! Ranked fifth!
I jumped up quickly from the bed, hugged my roommate and cheered loudly, then ran down the dormitory building, and ran to the track and field field, running round after round in full bloom.
While running, I recalled the time I worked hard in college in the past few years, and scenes flashed quickly like movies. I was memorizing Japanese in the bathroom, and I was busy on weekends boxing class and judo hall, making myself stronger and stronger.
and my efforts have also paid off. Not only did I find a job in advance, but I also received a scholarship from the school.
(Garden photo)
I called to report the good news to my grandma. On the other end of the phone, my grandma cried and laughed, and said, "Happy, so happy! "The news quickly spread to relatives and friends. My parents "showed off" to my friends around me. My son was going to work abroad. The aunts were also happy for me.
was preparing to cross the ocean and go to a foreign country to work hard. The one I care about the most was grandma. In this world, no one loves me more than grandma, and no one can replace my grandma's place in my heart.
I calculated it carefully, only In the past few years of my college years, my grandmother gave me more than 200,000 yuan, nearly 30,000 yuan to learn Japanese, 40,000 yuan to correct my teeth, and 20,000 yuan to learn fighting. Without my grandmother's firm support, I would not be who I am today.
At the end of August 2019, I came to Japan. First, I trained at the company's Kanagawa headquarters for 3 months to learn the etiquette culture, systems and electronic technology of Japanese companies. Three months later, I was sent to work in the factory in Ibaraki.
(take photos at Narita Airport when getting off the plane)
The monthly salary of just joining the company is equivalent to RMB 8,000, and after a year of work, it has increased to over 10,000. There are also bonuses twice a year, totaling 20,000 to 30,000 yuan.
Our company has regulations that single employees cannot share the lease. So I rented a small one-bedroom apartment. This small apartment with a monthly rent of 2,200 yuan, and the company subsidy is 500 yuan. It only takes 10 minutes to get to the factory by riding a bicycle.
I was dumbfounded when I first arrived in Japan. I bought contract machine . The monthly contract fee plus monthly rent, plus the wireless network fee, this fixed expense is nearly 800 yuan.
Since my grandma doesn’t know how to use social software, I often call her, and sometimes the cost will exceed 1,000 yuan.
In order to save money, I just occasionally go out for dinner with my friends, and almost always do it at home. Although the water, electricity and gas fees are not cheap, I can still save a lot of money. You can basically save about 5,000 yuan per month.
(the apartment I live in)
When I first joined the company, although I worked hard to adapt to the working environment, my personality was still quite timid. When I encountered problems that I couldn’t solve, I would sometimes bit the bullet and think about it myself. Fortunately, I met a good colleague.
The colleague Kubo, who sat next to my workstation, is a married Japanese boy in his early 30s.
He is very enthusiastic and takes the initiative to teach me how to use company equipment and how to reply to emails. Every time the company sends a notice, he will ask me if I don’t understand anything, and then explain it to me in a simpler Japanese language, which touched me very much.
My work content is mainly responsible for the testing of automotive inverters. The working hours are from 8:10 am to 17 pm every day, and the lunch break is 45 minutes.
The company still has strict regulations on overtime work. As long as you exceed 5 minutes of working time, you will be considered overtime. The company will pay overtime wages to employees.
Some colleagues like to stumble at work and continue to stay in the company after get off work to earn overtime. And I work overtime when I should work, and I get off work on time at other times.
(colleagues come to my house for dinner)
After get off work, I will not let myself be idle and continue to study Japanese. starts from 8pm to 10pm every day. This is my unstoppable Japanese study time. The Japanese language I learned in the country before
is obviously not enough here. The Japanese speak fast, and their accent and dialect in each area are different. I often understand the first half of the sentence, but the second half is not too late to react, so I skip it.
I remember one time, the department leader sent a long email. Because I didn’t fully understand the meaning, I missed one of the corresponding tasks.
The leader was furious after knowing it, his speech was fast and mixed with dialect. I couldn't understand what he said, but his anger could be seen from his expression and movements.
Since then, I have been focusing on studying emails every day. After reading it for a lot, you can slowly understand the meaning of it. After get off work, even if I don’t have anything to buy, I often go to crowded supermarkets and shopping malls to listen to Japanese in various accents and dialects.
(colleague Kubo)
Gradually, under the influence of the local local environment, my listening, speaking, reading and writing skills have made a qualitative leap. I was lucky enough to meet two Japanese friends. They would teach me Japanese during communication.
Soon, I passed the Japanese language proficiency N1 test. The improvement of Japanese language skills also made me responded frankly when I was bullied.
It was a weekend. The company sent a temporary notice to hold a training meeting. The email was clearly written. If you cannot participate, it would be enough to explain the reasons. The company's meaning is very obvious. This meeting is not mandatory.
But the supervisor ordered all of us to participate. I thought his approach was unreasonable, so I sent him a message saying that he could not participate if he had something to do.
(I work in a factory in Japan)
Unexpectedly, as soon as I sent the message, I received a call from him. I only heard him on the other end of the phone, first threatening me, and then cursing at me. The words were quite intense, and I felt very uncomfortable.
I have always been a gentle person and never speak harsh words. I kept myself calm. When he finished roaring, I whispered and firmly said: "Please say the words you scolded me just now. I will start recording now!"
He realized that I had clearly understood the swear words he scolded me. Later, I called the company's leadership to complain, but the leadership refused to deal with the matter on the grounds that I had no evidence.
So I found the director to explain the whole story and asked him to apologize to me in person. After my repeated insistence, he had to apologize to me later.
(Go to have a dinner with colleagues)
Working in Japanese companies, due to differences in language and culture, it is difficult to integrate into the circle. Infighting in the workplace is normal, but all this has nothing to do with me.
I am a socially terrifying person. Except for work, I rarely go out to participate in social engagements. Although I have met many Chinese friends in Japan, everyone lives far away and rarely gets together. So in my spare time, I spend most of my time improving myself.
Because I always remember my grandma’s earnest teachings: “Have gone to Japan, I must learn my skills. When I return to China in the future, I cannot be said to have been traveling there for several years, and I can’t do anything! ” It was shocking, and I dare not slack off.
(Travel in Kyoto)
worked in Japan for 3 years and did not return home. Every time it is a quiet night, I miss my family very much. I can't fall asleep every time, and I wish I could put on my wings, fly back to my motherland, and return to my hometown.
is far away in a foreign country, and I miss you endlessly, and no real friends can understand and tell you.
Moreover, the company's promotion space is getting narrower and narrower, and salary increases are nowhere to go. You can see it from 9 to 5 every day.
has lived in Japan for 3 years. The idol I want to meet has been met, and the overseas life I longed for in middle school has also been realized. In addition, I miss my grandma so much, so I began to think about the issue of returning to China.
In June 2022, with the impact of the epidemic on the manufacturing industry, the company's business has decreased significantly, and a group of employees were unfortunately laid off. Although I was not on the laid-off list, I took the initiative to resign.
(Look at Yukita Lai’s concert)
and his colleagues completed all the handover work and gave him a farewell gift. I bought beauty products and other souvenirs for my family, and filled two suitcases and three bags.
In August, I bought a 14,000 yuan flight ticket and set off for China. After quarantine in Guangzhou for 10 days, I returned to my hometown of Guizhou, which I was dreaming about.
After three years of separation from my hometown, I returned to the place where I grew up, and saw my elderly grandmother, I hugged her and burst into tears.
The tree wants to be quiet but the wind does not stop, and the son wants to support his parents but his parents do not wait for . I worked hard in Japan, and my grandma was hospitalized when she was sick and could not be filial to her side. Now that I am back, I want to make up for it all.
I chat with her every day and listen to her telling stories about my childhood. When the weather is good, I help her take a walk in the sun. Such peaceful days, no matter how beautiful the scenery is, you can't experience it.
(Osaka Tensou Pavilion)
The time I accompany me has become very slow, but I am calm.
I also found a close friend online. If you have the chance, we will make an appointment to meet after the Spring Festival this year.
As for finding a job, although I will face many uncertainties, I have the experience of a Japanese company and a solid foundation in Japanese.
Moreover, I have been accumulating short videos and plan to try new positions in new fields in new media companies in Guangzhou.
I have transformed from a timid and cowardly boy to a confident and independent man. During this long time, through continuous learning and changing myself, I gradually let go of my obsession with the past and welcome the impermanence in my life with a peaceful heart.
(In my hometown in Guizhou)
Thanks to my grandmother, she was like a bright moon shining on the window of my heart during my growth. Her kindness and kindness are enough to nourish my life. Regardless of whether I achieve anything in the future, I will continue to move forward with firmness.
Confidence and tenacity, the seeds sown by grandma in the past will always be placed in my heart.
[Oral: Yuzhou]
[Editor: Ruiling]
"We cannot go through different lives, but we can feel the real stories of others here, and each story has real photos! If you like such a true story, please follow us! @Real person interview
When she handed over with a thick stack of money, the first time she saw so much cash, I felt infinitely moved in my heart, and tears blurred my eyes.
Later, I traveled across the ocean to work in Japan, and I could better understand how difficult it is to make money. At that time, I had only one thought in my mind: I must work harder and not let my grandma down.
In my junior year, in order to further train my speaking skills, as long as I have time, I would take the initiative to find the teacher to practice dialogue. When I encountered various clubs related to Japanese, I actively signed up.
listened to my classmates and was on the subway. I can meet many Japanese people by chance. In my spare time, I often take the subway. When I wait or in the car, I will boldly move forward and politely greet them. After obtaining consent, I will start chatting with them.
can only use one or two Japanese words to basically make the other party understand. I am proud of my progress.
(learning boxing)
famous writer Roland said: "Everyone has two lights in his heart, one is the light of hope; the other is the light of courage. "Only by having courage, I have a continuous breakthrough.
With the daily improvement of Japanese language, a good opportunity has come. In the campus recruitment with strong hands, I stood out and was admitted to Japanese companies.
That day, the teacher posted a Japanese company recruitment information in the community. There are two recruitment requirements: both engineering background and Japanese. My eyes lit up.
"Isn't this job just for my wishes? If I can really go to Japan, can I meet my idol? "
At that moment, my heart suddenly became bright. The persistence in learning Japanese in recent years has not been in vain. The distance between me and my idol is not far away.
I still clearly remember that on the day of the interview, I got up very early, wore a specially prepared suit, took an hour and a half, and walked into the venue tremblingly.
A group of tall, neatly dressed, and dressed in suits appeared in front of me. They were competitors waiting for the interview, which made me not I was a little scared.
(my ID during the interview)
But I still tried to show confidence. After communicating with the interviewer for 10 minutes, I was told to go back and wait for the news. The result will be given in ten days.
When I heard that many other classmates had interviewed for half an hour, compared, I was a little worried that I was not very likely to be admitted.
Ten days later, a weekend morning, I opened my sleepy eyes, picked up my phone, and a message popped up, and looked closely, wow! I was admitted! Ranked fifth!
I jumped up quickly from the bed, hugged my roommate and cheered loudly, then ran down the dormitory building, and ran to the track and field field, running round after round in full bloom.
While running, I recalled the time I worked hard in college in the past few years, and scenes flashed quickly like movies. I was memorizing Japanese in the bathroom, and I was busy on weekends boxing class and judo hall, making myself stronger and stronger.
and my efforts have also paid off. Not only did I find a job in advance, but I also received a scholarship from the school.
(Garden photo)
I called to report the good news to my grandma. On the other end of the phone, my grandma cried and laughed, and said, "Happy, so happy! "The news quickly spread to relatives and friends. My parents "showed off" to my friends around me. My son was going to work abroad. The aunts were also happy for me.
was preparing to cross the ocean and go to a foreign country to work hard. The one I care about the most was grandma. In this world, no one loves me more than grandma, and no one can replace my grandma's place in my heart.
I calculated it carefully, only In the past few years of my college years, my grandmother gave me more than 200,000 yuan, nearly 30,000 yuan to learn Japanese, 40,000 yuan to correct my teeth, and 20,000 yuan to learn fighting. Without my grandmother's firm support, I would not be who I am today.
At the end of August 2019, I came to Japan. First, I trained at the company's Kanagawa headquarters for 3 months to learn the etiquette culture, systems and electronic technology of Japanese companies. Three months later, I was sent to work in the factory in Ibaraki.
(take photos at Narita Airport when getting off the plane)
The monthly salary of just joining the company is equivalent to RMB 8,000, and after a year of work, it has increased to over 10,000. There are also bonuses twice a year, totaling 20,000 to 30,000 yuan.
Our company has regulations that single employees cannot share the lease. So I rented a small one-bedroom apartment. This small apartment with a monthly rent of 2,200 yuan, and the company subsidy is 500 yuan. It only takes 10 minutes to get to the factory by riding a bicycle.
I was dumbfounded when I first arrived in Japan. I bought contract machine . The monthly contract fee plus monthly rent, plus the wireless network fee, this fixed expense is nearly 800 yuan.
Since my grandma doesn’t know how to use social software, I often call her, and sometimes the cost will exceed 1,000 yuan.
In order to save money, I just occasionally go out for dinner with my friends, and almost always do it at home. Although the water, electricity and gas fees are not cheap, I can still save a lot of money. You can basically save about 5,000 yuan per month.
(the apartment I live in)
When I first joined the company, although I worked hard to adapt to the working environment, my personality was still quite timid. When I encountered problems that I couldn’t solve, I would sometimes bit the bullet and think about it myself. Fortunately, I met a good colleague.
The colleague Kubo, who sat next to my workstation, is a married Japanese boy in his early 30s.
He is very enthusiastic and takes the initiative to teach me how to use company equipment and how to reply to emails. Every time the company sends a notice, he will ask me if I don’t understand anything, and then explain it to me in a simpler Japanese language, which touched me very much.
My work content is mainly responsible for the testing of automotive inverters. The working hours are from 8:10 am to 17 pm every day, and the lunch break is 45 minutes.
The company still has strict regulations on overtime work. As long as you exceed 5 minutes of working time, you will be considered overtime. The company will pay overtime wages to employees.
Some colleagues like to stumble at work and continue to stay in the company after get off work to earn overtime. And I work overtime when I should work, and I get off work on time at other times.
(colleagues come to my house for dinner)
After get off work, I will not let myself be idle and continue to study Japanese. starts from 8pm to 10pm every day. This is my unstoppable Japanese study time. The Japanese language I learned in the country before
is obviously not enough here. The Japanese speak fast, and their accent and dialect in each area are different. I often understand the first half of the sentence, but the second half is not too late to react, so I skip it.
I remember one time, the department leader sent a long email. Because I didn’t fully understand the meaning, I missed one of the corresponding tasks.
The leader was furious after knowing it, his speech was fast and mixed with dialect. I couldn't understand what he said, but his anger could be seen from his expression and movements.
Since then, I have been focusing on studying emails every day. After reading it for a lot, you can slowly understand the meaning of it. After get off work, even if I don’t have anything to buy, I often go to crowded supermarkets and shopping malls to listen to Japanese in various accents and dialects.
(colleague Kubo)
Gradually, under the influence of the local local environment, my listening, speaking, reading and writing skills have made a qualitative leap. I was lucky enough to meet two Japanese friends. They would teach me Japanese during communication.
Soon, I passed the Japanese language proficiency N1 test. The improvement of Japanese language skills also made me responded frankly when I was bullied.
It was a weekend. The company sent a temporary notice to hold a training meeting. The email was clearly written. If you cannot participate, it would be enough to explain the reasons. The company's meaning is very obvious. This meeting is not mandatory.
But the supervisor ordered all of us to participate. I thought his approach was unreasonable, so I sent him a message saying that he could not participate if he had something to do.
(I work in a factory in Japan)
Unexpectedly, as soon as I sent the message, I received a call from him. I only heard him on the other end of the phone, first threatening me, and then cursing at me. The words were quite intense, and I felt very uncomfortable.
I have always been a gentle person and never speak harsh words. I kept myself calm. When he finished roaring, I whispered and firmly said: "Please say the words you scolded me just now. I will start recording now!"
He realized that I had clearly understood the swear words he scolded me. Later, I called the company's leadership to complain, but the leadership refused to deal with the matter on the grounds that I had no evidence.
So I found the director to explain the whole story and asked him to apologize to me in person. After my repeated insistence, he had to apologize to me later.
(Go to have a dinner with colleagues)
Working in Japanese companies, due to differences in language and culture, it is difficult to integrate into the circle. Infighting in the workplace is normal, but all this has nothing to do with me.
I am a socially terrifying person. Except for work, I rarely go out to participate in social engagements. Although I have met many Chinese friends in Japan, everyone lives far away and rarely gets together. So in my spare time, I spend most of my time improving myself.
Because I always remember my grandma’s earnest teachings: “Have gone to Japan, I must learn my skills. When I return to China in the future, I cannot be said to have been traveling there for several years, and I can’t do anything! ” It was shocking, and I dare not slack off.
(Travel in Kyoto)
worked in Japan for 3 years and did not return home. Every time it is a quiet night, I miss my family very much. I can't fall asleep every time, and I wish I could put on my wings, fly back to my motherland, and return to my hometown.
is far away in a foreign country, and I miss you endlessly, and no real friends can understand and tell you.
Moreover, the company's promotion space is getting narrower and narrower, and salary increases are nowhere to go. You can see it from 9 to 5 every day.
has lived in Japan for 3 years. The idol I want to meet has been met, and the overseas life I longed for in middle school has also been realized. In addition, I miss my grandma so much, so I began to think about the issue of returning to China.
In June 2022, with the impact of the epidemic on the manufacturing industry, the company's business has decreased significantly, and a group of employees were unfortunately laid off. Although I was not on the laid-off list, I took the initiative to resign.
(Look at Yukita Lai’s concert)
and his colleagues completed all the handover work and gave him a farewell gift. I bought beauty products and other souvenirs for my family, and filled two suitcases and three bags.
In August, I bought a 14,000 yuan flight ticket and set off for China. After quarantine in Guangzhou for 10 days, I returned to my hometown of Guizhou, which I was dreaming about.
After three years of separation from my hometown, I returned to the place where I grew up, and saw my elderly grandmother, I hugged her and burst into tears.
The tree wants to be quiet but the wind does not stop, and the son wants to support his parents but his parents do not wait for . I worked hard in Japan, and my grandma was hospitalized when she was sick and could not be filial to her side. Now that I am back, I want to make up for it all.
I chat with her every day and listen to her telling stories about my childhood. When the weather is good, I help her take a walk in the sun. Such peaceful days, no matter how beautiful the scenery is, you can't experience it.
(Osaka Tensou Pavilion)
The time I accompany me has become very slow, but I am calm.
I also found a close friend online. If you have the chance, we will make an appointment to meet after the Spring Festival this year.
As for finding a job, although I will face many uncertainties, I have the experience of a Japanese company and a solid foundation in Japanese.
Moreover, I have been accumulating short videos and plan to try new positions in new fields in new media companies in Guangzhou.
I have transformed from a timid and cowardly boy to a confident and independent man. During this long time, through continuous learning and changing myself, I gradually let go of my obsession with the past and welcome the impermanence in my life with a peaceful heart.
(In my hometown in Guizhou)
Thanks to my grandmother, she was like a bright moon shining on the window of my heart during my growth. Her kindness and kindness are enough to nourish my life. Regardless of whether I achieve anything in the future, I will continue to move forward with firmness.
Confidence and tenacity, the seeds sown by grandma in the past will always be placed in my heart.
[Oral: Yuzhou]
[Editor: Ruiling]
We cannot go through different lives, but we can feel the real stories of others here, and each story has real photos! If you like such a true story, please follow us! @Real person interview
