Every Silicon Valley engineers have met with major technology companies in Silicon Valley - from begging them to taking a look at their resumes a few years later, they were begged to taking a look at email. It can be said that the fight with HR has created the workplace growth of Silicon Valley engineers.
However, among the thousands of HRs that have dealt with, there is a technology company's HR that is particularly outstanding.
A letter from recruiting people has attracted the collective emotion of Silicon Valley engineers
Currently working as a senior engineer in Google Zhang Tian (pseudonym), who accidentally opened the email and found a message from Amazon HR:
Hello,
I sent you an email last week about the job opportunities of the Amazon Video Team. However, I have not received your reply so far. I think you might be in one of four situations: 1. You may have received an offer from other companies. If this is the case, tell me, I don’t have to keep watching you anymore. 2. You think your current job role is so perfect that it cannot be more perfect. 3. You are interested in the job opportunities I offer, but don’t have time to contact me. 4. You fell down and couldn't hook your keyboard to reply to me. If this is the case, please let me know and I will call the police for you. I've already started to worry about you. Please let me know what kind of situation you are.
This "sudden" concern made Zhang Tian feel uncomfortable.
"In fact, I have never communicated with this HR, nor have I applied for any Amazon job. The Amazon HR just sent an email a week ago saying that they were interested in my current work experience at eBay (but I left my job a few years ago and joined Google) and wanted to give me a chance to interview Amazon."
According to Zhang Tian, he and his colleagues can receive several messages every day from major technology companies and will not reply at all. And those HRs who cast wide nets will never be able to "chase and fight".
This is the first time I have received such a rude reply, and it even makes people feel cursed. Zhang Tian posted this information on his LinkedIn page with some anger and asked if Amazon recruiters are so bad?
result doesn't matter. This message "blasted" some new complaints from other engineers. An engineer even said that there were similar "fights" with Amazon HR, and the most important point is that Amazon HR may not be able to "talk".
What is the worst experience you have when you go to an interview?
Coincidentally, another friend of mine who had just been admitted to Pinterest also fought with Amazon recruiters while looking for a job, but was so angry that he was internally injured.
Zeng Yang, who has worked in a first-line e-commerce company for 5 years, decided to find a job opportunity. After a month of interviews and applications, he finally got a job offer from companies including Amazon, Pinterest, Airbnb and other companies.
Among them, Amazon's HR pays about 70% of the salary that other companies have. As usual, Zeng Yang decided to negotiate a reasonable salary for himself (this is a very necessary ability in the American workplace).
As soon as I opened my mouth, I just asked to basically match other offers. Amazon's HR said in a very contemptuous and sarcastic tone on the phone:
Don’t make me laugh! (Don't be funny with me!)
even ended up giving a position that was far lower than his original position.
At present, this guy who was speechless by Amazon HR has easily joined Pinterest, which is about to go public. However, when recalling the interview at Amazon, Zeng Yang was still full of fire and used three words to describe their HR, which was just unprofessional.
is actually not just these two examples around you that prove that Amazon’s HR is “toxic”. A random search online makes engineers complain about Amazon's recruitment process overwhelming.
For example, this young man who turned his mind after being released infinitely.
In 2015, an Amazon applicant responded to "the worst experience in interviewing Amazon" on Zhihu Quora in the United States:
An Amazon manager came to me and said that he had a position looking for a suitable engineer. We quickly made a call and it looked like everything went well. She then recommended me to HR and made an appointment for a telephone interview. The HR called me, asked about my free time and promised to have an interview as soon as possible. However, she disappeared like this for two weeks. Because I have my own job, I am not in a hurry to find a job. But suddenly one day, I received a lot of missed calls and a voice message from Amazon HR, saying that he wanted to interview me immediately now. After I got home, I rechecked the email, even spam and phone records. There was no record of this HR contacting me by phone (the American HR usually emails the appointment first, and will not call me suddenly). But I still went to an email to my HR who had contacted me before. Another day later, I received another voice message from Amazon HR at work to ask me to call back. This time this HR who had never emailed me and didn't even leave my own phone number.
Since then, I never want to interview or even join Amazon. Their recruitment process embodies the company’s values—management chaos and disrespect for others.
In the American technology circle, Amazon has not copied the utopian form of most Silicon Valley technology companies - providing the maximum amount of respect to employees, providing employees with as much (at least as much as possible) benefits as possible, etc.
Amazon recruitment has always been a large number of recruitment, and then elimination screening. Then the strong pressure also made Amazon's employee turnover rate ranked first in the technology circle, and even this elimination pressure has caused engineers to jump off buildings many times.
In addition to Amazon, there are other Silicon Valley companies "diverse" people-oriented culture
A technical headhunter who works in Silicon Valley who is unwilling to be exposed to the Silicon Stars revealed to the Silicon Stars that HRs are actually under great pressure for most tasks, and they frequently ask for face tests, and then continue to ask for offers to take the offer. The hard work may only be known by themselves.
However, each company also has its own tricks. The headhunter told me quietly.
For example, Google is always polite and pursues political correctness. It is like a humble gentleman. Even the letter of rejection given is not wrong. Look at the following rejection letter, which roughly means that it is not that you are bad, but that our position is not worthy of you.
And Facebook became more direct and "rude" a few years ago once she realized that the interviewer had little hope. It is said that there is improvement now, a hunter head said.
, and Apple's HR is the person who is the most "push" employee in the circle who takes the offer - once you don't accept the offer, you will receive a fatal series of HR calls, which will disturb your normal work and life a day. What's more ruthless is that there was an HR who used his trump card to let the interviewer's future team manager and boss talk to them directly.
"Generally those who have not decided to refuse offer will communicate with their new boss obediently. This way they have a much greater chance of winning." said the headhunter.
Of course, the biggest battle with HR still occurs when negotiating final salary and benefits. The headhunter humorously said that HR is easy to negotiate except for not being able to negotiate prices.
"It's like playing cards. The first person to show his trump card will lose." The headhunter said that HR will ask about salary expectations and other offers at the beginning (the stage when job seekers are looking for a job).
"Sometimes, it is also interesting to deal with HR, if HR is professional enough," said the headhunter.
In fact, in Silicon Valley, engineers often change jobs more frequently than other industries because they have more porridge and fewer monks. The HRs in Silicon Valley are of different shapes, both good and bad.But it is also the HR competition that different from these different personalities that have allowed engineers to develop and grow in the workplace - making engineers go from being a young teenager to being stronger in the workplace, which is a valuable life experience.
