I am a loyal reader of "Li Xiang Business Insider". Recently, Teacher Li Xiang wrote a long article about Alibaba Technology. 1. Jack Ma said that it is precisely because of him

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I am a loyal reader of

I am a loyal reader of "Li Xiang Business Insider". Recently, Teacher Li Xiang wrote a long article about Alibaba technology. In addition to doing deep learning of the article itself, I think many readers' comments are also worth thinking about. Today I will give you excerpts.

1. Jack Ma said that it is precisely because he does not understand technology that Alibaba has the strongest technology. In fact, this is just the judgment that the winner is king. Just imagine that if his entrepreneurial team does not have core technical personnel, the consequences will be disaster. Judging from my own entrepreneurial experience, that's it. Our entrepreneurial team members are all business experts, but there are no core technical personnel. The entrepreneurial projects are environmental protection testing, and they can only support them hard. In addition, it is really difficult to find technical personnel in third- and fourth-tier cities, and those from big cities are unwilling to come.

agrees with today's statement on technology and business: research institutions within the company may not find the implementation scenario of technology and cannot be recognized by the business departments of the same company. Between the leap towards technology and helping technology find applications, there is a glass wall. It takes more strategy and patience to break this wall.

2. It turns out that Alibaba also has the problem of coexistence of each enterprise. It is difficult to have appropriate soil for introducing senior talents to allow talents to take root and sprout quickly. The running-in and conflict in this are a challenge for enterprises and talents. Only by moving forward in balance will it be more valuable.

3. Science and technology are the primary productive force and the core competitiveness of enterprises! BAT has three giants, Alibaba has Taobao, Tencent has WeChat, but Baidu is a bit down. In the era of big data, data processing and cloud computing capabilities have become the core competitiveness of enterprises, so Jack Ma has always emphasized: Alibaba is a technology company. Technology changes are long-term engineering, technical reserves, the combination of technology and business, and technology guides the development of the company. This is the "Long March" of the new era. The journey is long, and you will succeed when you persist!

4. Aerospace parasol: It can be seen that the conflict between the technical department and the business department has always been there. Only when the two are running in or reaching the ideal "Nash equilibrium" will amazing products be born, and then they will continue to run in and achieve the next stage of equilibrium. The laboratory established by Alibaba was finally classified as a department under Alibaba Cloud, which can be seen as a victory for the business department over the technical department. However, overall, although technical scientists may not see pain points and application scenarios like business departments, the two did not produce an ideal product in the end, which was a failure for both departments. However, this is a common thing.

5. Hu Wenjing: Is it like Baidu’s two teams in artificial intelligence technology? One develops from the top down from a technical perspective; the other develops from the bottom up from a business perspective. However, Alibaba's iDST has been adjusted internally. The technical department is combined with the business department. While having first-hand data and needs, it supports better business needs with technology

6. PYPLBenley: The resources are limited, and the company definitely hopes that the resources will be used in places with high ROI. The company will establish many projects, and each project needs to prove itself, but in many cases, to prove itself, you need more resources, but you cannot prove yourself and cannot get resources. This is such a contradiction. It is difficult to solve, but in addition to the company's strategic support, it is more important that the project leader must have the ability to use the least resources to prove that there is an indicator that is beneficial to the company, so as to gain some resources, then prove the next one, and then strive for it. Generally, many people in charge always want to prove a lot of things at once. In the absence of resources, of course it is impossible. Large companies often have to go step by step.

7. A leader who understands technology and business, breaks the glass wall

8. Huang Haiqing: Technology is the primary productivity. Technology is not productivity before it is applied and has value, just like the situation of iDST in Alibaba. But the company's business team is very pragmatic and they need to see performance. The research and development and innovation of science and technology often need to be ahead of the curve. That is, the corresponding application scenario may not be found at the moment. In front of a pragmatic business team, this situation may be considered an illusory adventure without feet.Half a step ahead is an advantage. If you take one step ahead, you may become a martyr.

9, Thirteen: Baidu is the same. When technology lacks application scenarios, it is easy to become a technology that shows off. It tastes a bit like an Occam razor.

10, Lushi 61691791: They are all very powerful technologies, but as far as I am concerned, I think Huawei is more calm and does not proclaim too much about what type of company it is, but their products have been recognized by everyone, which is enough.

They do have an eye-catching rhythm now. It’s not that they are not doing well, but that their skills are something that we the melon-eating crowd cannot reach, but they just think it’s better to just stop.

11. Compared with pure technology investment, the application of technology is the key to the survival of small companies.

12. Zheng Weijun: If you want to talk about a technology-driven company, Huawei in China should naturally rank first. Whether it is R&D background, R&D investment or R&D output, they are incomparable to the three major domestic BATs at present, but Huawei has always been so low-key and does not compete with everyone for the name of technology-driven. What Huawei has done a good job in technology-driven is that technological innovation and business can be well integrated. Therefore, it may seem that Huawei does not have any particularly dazzling technological innovations on the surface, but their innovations have a huge impact on their business. For example, Huawei's cloud may bring rapid development to Huawei's business in the future

13, ➕Hua: After the technology company, will it become a company with service and business model again? This is a cyclical change process!

14, Free and easy 625834: Small companies should develop more technologies with application scenarios! Large companies can do more basic technical research! If you are small, you will be safe, and if you are big, you will be able to help the society.

15. JACK GAO: If you invest in technology research and development, you cannot take the route of burning the bag. Google cannot learn how to play it, and that requires soil and genes. The best technical route for us is to find problems and solve them.

16, Hu Wenjing: Just like Ren Zhengfei 's attitude towards artificial intelligence, technology and business, it is implemented internally, and then it starts to tear a hole before expanding the scope. Take steady steps instead of seizing the opportunity.

Alibaba's technical department is also very awesome. iDST's internal talent transfer combines business and technology, which is also a summary after the actual combat. No one knows the specific direction, they all move forward while fighting.

18, sunny: commercial companies and technology companies, Google Glasses hot air balloon driverless, ALPHAGO, FACEBOOK: UAV, oculus, , Amazon : AWS, Echo, Alwxa, business forward-looking will bring innovation and transformation,

19, writing recruit Li Yancheng: So many people emphasize that they are data companies, few people think about it, so much data provided by customers, why don’t they mention what benefits they bring to customers?

20, Jay Hu: In fact, the essence is to improve business efficiency. Innovate in an industry’s early model will bring about efficiency improvement, but there will always be bottleneck periods, so it is turned to rely on technological innovation to improve efficiency. When technological innovation reaches a certain stage, it is another model innovation, and it is generally in a spiral upward state, which is a normal economic ecology.

21. Xu: Some technological progress is passive, for example, due to the surge in visits, the website is paralyzed; some technological progress is proactive because the innovation of business models has entered a dilemma. Since bat claims to be an attribute of Internet companies, it should actually come up with something in terms of technical level, rather than keeping a close eye on "silly people and a lot of money"~

22. Golden Retriever who loves to play and sing: It is like being a human being, you cannot be too ambitious, down-to-earth, and step by step to seek growth and change in the market. The goals or ideas set at the beginning are often a wrong goal and idea. A truly successful business case is a process of doing a good job in the present, constantly competing with the market, and slowly correcting it. Just like the evolution of human society, it is slow and powerful. Like the theory of free market economy, do not deliberately change market behavior. The same is true for education. Instead of deliberately teaching children to do this or that, they create an environment to give several possibilities to discover on their own.Parents’ behavior should be similar to those of governments in free market economy, and so should company executives. The most fundamental need of enterprises is still to survive in the market, which is as important as natural persons.

23. Bibo: The different ways or attitudes of Chinese and Western businesses towards technology may be due to the differences in the cultural genes of Chinese and Western countries. From the history of human wars, especially modern wars, we can discover the differences and influences brought about by the differences in Chinese and Western cultures.

The profound application of technology by the West can quote the view of "Killing and Culture": "From Arian's works, until the 16th century where the Spanish conquerors lived, from camping, marching and formation, to gunpowder ballistics to gunpowder ratio, Westerners can always integrate first-hand knowledge and abstract theoretical research into actual operations. 'And a history of modern China's war, just like the history of Alibaba's development, wins strategically in the early stage, and technology-driven in the long run.

24, JACK GAO: Alibaba’s emphasis on technology is, from a certain perspective, just to show that it has a strong sense of crisis. Because the Internet is developing too fast, I will fall behind if I accidentally do it. Baidu is a typical example. It is a beat slower than AT on the mobile Internet, and it can no longer catch up. Yahoo was so domineering back then, and now it’s not like it’s gone! ! You can imagine how anxious Alibaba should be! How can he not force himself toward the Long March of Technology! ! ! ?

25, maji: Although it is a technology, it is also believed that technology without application scenarios is not vital. The business guides the direction of technology, but it will also be subverted by technology, and the needs of users are the source of business.

26. Little Mosquito Growth Declaration: From what Jack Ma has always emphasized, "Alibaba is a DT company", to CTO Zhang Jianfeng must "do both things to the extreme" of technology optimization and technological innovation, and then to Cheng Li, Qi Yuan and Jin Rong's understanding of technology, as well as the establishment, splitting, reorganization and shining of iDST, it fully reflects the position and role of technology in the development of an Internet company, and the extreme necessity of deep integration of technology and business. Perhaps, technological research and development that is separated from actual business, just like the R&D departments of Bell Labs and IBM mentioned two days ago, are just some "castles in the air" that have made a name for themselves.

According to economics, as long as the dispute over resource allocation is involved, departments will blame and suppress each other, resulting in huge internal friction. The best solution is to fully integrate the rights and responsibilities of technology and business, and a unified person in charge will allocate and integrate resources to make choices that maximize profits. Letting Zhang Jianfeng serve as the CTO of Alibaba Cloud is a typical example.

After three days of study, I have a preliminary understanding of the bumpy experience of "new technologies" among the "five new" that Jack Ma repeatedly emphasized on Alibaba, and I am also full of expectations for Alibaba's further development.

27, lzc: Alibaba’s strong culture is fully reflected. A scientist, Qi Yuan’s final meaning is: If a company can be separated from technology, then technology that is not integrated with the industry is pseudo-technology, and you are not a technology company. It can be seen that this scientist should have endured a huge challenge during that confused period.

28. Chitu in the cloud: This series made me truly feel the application of artificial intelligence in actual business. I was very excited and felt stressed. Because I just decided to switch to data analysis and plan to switch to data mining in the future. Seeing such high-end technology and excellent talents in this industry, I feel that my knowledge is too weak. But I will continue to work hard, and I hope I can go to a company like Alibaba to do some data mining work in the future.

29. Yeming@Doctor Xingren: The technology company is not something the boss says, and technology is not developed from the top to the bottom, but it is grown from the bottom to the top. As someone who has been in Alibaba for a period of time, it can only be said that Alibaba’s values ​​are not technical values. Under this value, Alibaba cannot become a technology company, although its technology is pretty good.

30, Andy: Lao Ma’s style of doing things can be said to be a glimpse of the leopard, which is a bit obvious! Without the delivery of achievements, Lao Ma would never be able to set the goal of techfin! As an e-commerce (no logistics) company, Alibaba’s interaction with customers can only be reflected in customer service. It is most appropriate to use the entry point for customer service with the help of technology efficiency improvement. The company's genes still determine the future direction of a company, and there is still a big gap between products and technology. The AI ​​and IoT mentioned in the article are typical research directions of big data algorithms or carriers for realizing technology. It seems that you want to do anything, but you may not do anything well. Alibaba’s technical strength has not yet truly formed a climate, and there is still a long way to go! Ren Zhengfei once said that artificial intelligence should not bloom everywhere, but should open one or two holes. The front line is too long and nothing can be done in the end!

31, DAVID22153859: The development of technology must be combined with the industry, and the development of technology also requires usage scenarios. Alibaba has a large amount of data and a broad usage scenario, which provides inherent favorable conditions for the development of technology. What is even more surprising is Alibaba's persistence and foresight towards technology, as well as its changes and reserves for technological development. Jack Ma has also been emphasizing that Alibaba is a technology company. Technology innovation can ensure Alibaba’s distinct organizational characteristics, and can also drive Alibaba to embrace change and have a long-lasting foundation!

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