Liu Bang and Zhu Yuanzhang chatted on WeChat about how the founding emperor became the founding emperor (Part 2) Yesterday, we talked about how the founding emperor became the founding emperor. We talked about Xia, Shang, Zhou and Qin, Liu Bang in the Western Han Dynasty and Zhu

Liu Bang and Zhu Yuanzhang’s WeChat chat

How the founding emperor became the emperor (Part 2)

Yesterday we talked about how the founding emperor became the emperor. We talked about Xia, Shang, Zhou and Qin, Liu Bang of the Western Han Dynasty and Zhu Yuanzhang of the Ming Dynasty. Today, Liu Bang Let’s talk about the rest with Zhu Yuanzhang. Is

here? Judy. Where is Liu Bang sending a message

? Brother Liu, I plan to contact you too.

Brother Zhu, go on.

Brother Liu, let me ask you a question, Is Liu Xiu of the Eastern Han Dynasty considered the founding emperor?

The Eastern Han Dynasty is the continuation of our Western Han Dynasty, but he is not inherited. He should be regarded as the founding emperor. I am the founding emperor of the Western Han Dynasty, but I cannot deny that Liu Xiu is really capable.

There is another person, let me ask again, is Wang Mang considered the founding emperor?

Wang Mang does not count, he is not the founding emperor, he is a traitor, Liu Bang said angrily. If you don’t talk about him today, let’s talk about him again when you have the opportunity.

Let’s talk about how Liu Xiu became the emperor.

Liu Xiu is the ninth grandson of Liu Bang, and should be from the lineage of Han Jingdi Changsha Dingwang Liu Fa.

Brother Liu, I am your descendant. Zhu Yuanzhang emphasized.

Liu Bang said, I have many descendants, and he is already the ninth generation.

At that time, Wang Mang usurped power, and the political power was not in the Liu family. Liu Xiu became emperor through his personal abilities.

The founding emperor of Cao Wei was Cao Pi , and his father was Cao Cao . It was not difficult to become the emperor, after all, it was the basis for succession.

Zhu Yuanzhang began to talk about the founding emperor named Liu again. He was Liu Bei.

Zhu Yuanzhang said, he is another descendant of yours. He has always said that he is a clan member of the Han Dynasty and a descendant of Hanzhongshan JingwangLiu Sheng. Liu Sheng is the son of Han Jing Emperor Liu Qi . He was fond of wine and sex and had more than 120 descendants. Therefore, there is a reason why Liu Bei said he was his descendant. There is no record that can be found. This is Liu Bei's. Cunning point!

Liu Bang smiled slightly when he heard what Zhu Yuanzhang said. Liu Bei still learned a little bit of truth.

Liu Xiu in front of me also learned a little bit, he and Liu Bei are okay! Being able to get praise from their ancestors shows that Liu Xiu and Liu Bei are really good. After all, Liu Bang was the founding emperor of the Western Han Dynasty.

The founding emperor of Soochow Sun Jian, his father Sun Jian and his brother Sun Ce laid the foundation of Jiangdong in the separatist rule of the Eastern Han Dynasty. It's not considered his talent, it's considered inheritance.

continue? Brother Liu.

Let’s continue. In a moment, we will summarize.

Okay then!

The founding emperor of the Western Jin Dynasty was Emperor Wu of Jin Sima Yan, who was his father, and the inheritance passed down by his grandfather. His father Sima Zhao, and his grandfather was Sima Yi, a person who was about the same level as Cao Cao.

The founding emperor of the Eastern Jin Dynasty was Emperor Jin Yuan Sima Rui. It was regarded as a title, and the heir came.

The founding emperor of the Southern Song Dynasty was Emperor Wu Liu Yu, and he was also named Liu. He also said he was your descendant. Liu Yu was poor since he was a child, and later joined the Beifu Army as a general. He is considered the emperor of entrepreneurship.

The founding emperor of Qi in the Southern Dynasty was Gaodi Xiao Daocheng, who was the twenty-fourth generation grandson of Xiao He, the prime minister of the Western Han Dynasty. Considered your old subordinate, Xiao Daocheng's father Xiao Chengzhi was a famous military general in the Liu Song Dynasty. He cannot be considered a grassroots person. Speaking of Xiao He, Brother Liu, if you have a chance, tell me his story, okay?

Liu Bang said, there are plenty of opportunities. I will not only tell you about Xiao He, but also about Zhang Liang, Han Xin, and other generals. Today we will talk about the emperor, otherwise it will be too late again.

Zhu Yuanzhang said, OK.

Another one with the surname Xiao. The founding emperor of Liang in the Southern Dynasty was Emperor Wu Xiao Yan. He was also a descendant of Xiao He and was the twenty-fifth grandson. His family was a Lanling Xiao family , and his father Xiao Shunzhi was a younger brother of Emperor Gao of the Qi Dynasty. He was granted the title of Marquis of Linxiang County and was promoted to Danyang Yin. His mother was Zhang Shangrou. He is not considered a grassroots emperor.

The founding emperor of the Southern Dynasties Chen was Emperor Wu Chen Baxian. He was considered a grassroots man with a humble background.

The founding emperor of the Sui Dynasty was Emperor Wen of the Sui Dynasty Yang Jian. According to historical records, Yang Jian came from the Guanzhong Gaomen Hongnong Yang family . He was the fourteenth generation grandson of the Eastern Han Dynasty Yang Zhen. His father was an official, so he could be an official. The emperor, my father has a foundation.

Brother Liu, are you still there? Zhu Yuanzhang saw no reply.

Brother Zhu, I just can’t accept it for a moment. Did so many founding emperors struggle through their own struggles like us?

Seeing this, I feel a lot.

continued, Brother Zhu.

The founding emperor of the Tang Dynasty, Gaozu Li Yuan, was a descendant of an aristocratic family. He was considered Yang Jian's cousin, not a grassroots emperor.

The Five Dynasties Liang Taizu of the Later Liang Zhu Wen, the Five Dynasties the Later Tang Dynasty Li Keyong, the Five Dynasties Later Jin Shi Jingtang , the Five Dynasties the Later Han Liu Hao, the Five Dynasties the Later Zhou Dynasty Guo Wei, all five of them were made possible by fighting in troubled times. Emperor, Zhu and Wen's family conditions are the worst. They are not good families. They are the same as you and me. Through hard work, the four of them have good family conditions. In the end, they became emperor by chance.

Song Dynasty Song Taizu Zhao Kuangyin seized power through a military coup.

Genghis Khan of the Yuan Dynasty , the family foundation is still good, and he succeeded by relying on his own development.

Then there is me. I am a grassroots person. Brother Liu, you know that.

As for Nurhachi of the Qing Dynasty who succeeded our Ming Dynasty, he was a nobleman and later succeeded.

As for those emperors, for example, besides the Five Hus and Sixteen Kingdoms, Southern Dynasties , there are the founding emperors of the Northern Dynasties, Five Dynasties and Ten Kingdoms Ten Kingdoms , as well as Liao Kingdom , Jin Kingdom , Xixia and Dali Kingdom These are not emperors who came in a serious way, so let’s not talk about them.

Liu Bang said, yes, don’t talk about them anymore, they are not on the same level. It seems that the real grassroots are our two emperors.

They all have backgrounds. We are both poor children. This is why we have something to say. Sorry, I said we are father and son. It should be brothers.

Zhu Yuanzhang smiled, let alone the two of us, if you go by age, I should call you Laolaolaolao. . . Where is grandpa.

Liu Bang also laughed.

Liu Bang said, I have another question for Brother Zhu, who are the unified dynasties in China? How many are there? If Han Dynasty East and West were counted as one dynasty, it would be nine; if they were counted separately, it would be ten.

The unified dynasties in ancient China include the Qin Dynasty, the Han Dynasty and the Western Han Dynasty, the Han Dynasty and the Eastern Han Dynasty, the Jin Dynasty and the Western Jin Dynasty, the Sui Dynasty, the Tang Dynasty, the Song Dynasty, the Yuan Dynasty, the Ming Dynasty, and the Qing Dynasty.

Brother Zhu, from now on we will focus on talking about the unified dynasty. As for those small dynasties, it is really meaningless. Let’s talk less about them. I get angry when I hear them.

Okay, Brother Liu.

We have been chatting for a long time today, and I am a little tired, Liu Bang said.

Zhu Yuanzhang is also very interesting. I am also tired. I will chat with Brother Liu another day.