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Southern Song The golden spectrum of Dong Huai was first edited by others and modified is difficult to compare with each other
--------------How to treat the doubts about the genealogy between Dong Huai’s Dong Jin and Dong Qian
0 April 23 to 24, 2022 Quanxi Family Group Discussion
Mangrove Old Dong:
Sunny
Dong Yun:
Liukeng old score also has this problem. They have changed it, but we did not change it. How can we change it without scientific evidence? There are many errors in national history , and it cannot be changed at will. Only when archaeology has new evidence can it be changed.
Sunshine〈Dong Houlun〉
@Mangrove Old Dong hahaha, I haven’t met you yet, don’t know?
Mengtou Lao Dong:
@Sunshine〈Dong Houlun〉Guiyang, Guizhou It seems that you are not seventy years old?
Mengtou Lao Dong:
Dong Huai edited the genealogy, why can’t you find where Dong Huai’s name is?
Sunshine〈Dong Houlun〉
@Mangrove Old Dong haha, I am only twenty-two years old!
Mengtou Laodou:
Mentality twenty-two, but sixty-two, right?
Dong Quanji:
Sunny
Sunny
[Good]
Dong Quanji:
I, Zhongshan, Guangxi, there is a tombstone of during the Jiajing period, and the inscription is still clear. It is recorded that belongs to the descendants of Dong Huai, and drink two more cups of
Dong Quanji:
Under the underneath is the tombstone of Jiajing period in Guangxi, and the handwriting is still clear
Dong Quanji:
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Mangrove Old Dong:
There are two families in Zhongshan, Guangxi, and I wonder who is the descendant of Dong Huai? Anyway, some people don't recognize it? A few years ago, many people said they were descendants of Cao Cao's and , so they went to do DNA tests. As a result, only two out of the seven people could be confirmed to be descendants of Cao Cao.
Dong Quanji:
Don’t pretend to be Dong if you don’t know, Zhongshan now has three different ancestors in the genealogy. People say that eating is OK, but talking is not OK
Dong Zhaoping Ganlu Linlin:
@Dong Quanji ! !
Dong Quanji:
@Dong Zhaoping : Mouth needs to accumulate virtue, not dirty
Dong Quanji:
@Dong Zhaoping : Ming Dynasty Jiajing tombstone, which is longer than many compilation
Dong Guoan
@Mengshu Old Dong It seems that you have also made DNA, but I don’t know which ancestor it belongs to,
Mengshu Old Dong:
@Dong Guoan : My forty-six generations of ancestors understand, I wonder which generation of ancestors you can find?
Dong Guoan
I am an ancestor and Xigong, are there any problems?
Dong Quanji:
@Dong Zhaoping : There is a good story. A poor family in a down-and-out job helped a rich man. He shot his daughter and then ran away. I don't know whose species it is. I didn't know when I got pregnant later, but my mother called her son to find her father and ran into a mountain valley. Afterwards, he compiled a family tree from other places, and had a name, and he ended up writing a letter to him. It's done.
Dong Guoan
@Mangshu Lao Dong You understand so well, have you done DNA comparison?
Dong Quanji:
It is recommended that the group leader keep a close eye on the group members, and do not mix up those who deliberately cause trouble, and turn a good family group into a battle group.
Dong Yueqing Jiujiang :
Welcome the clans to join the group for exchange and discussion. I sincerely hope that the same clan will be prosperous and achieve the effect of seeking common ground while reserving minor differences!
Dong Shusong Shenzhen Fan Environment:
@Dong Yun ?
Dong Quanji:
@Dong Yun : Are you still fishing? Found Wen Tianxiang without
Dong Shusong Shenzhen Fan Environment:
@Dong Yun : I posted the record early or your score record early?
Dong Quanji:
@Dong Yun : Why does the genealogy of each province and even the genealogy of different schools have no record of time? When did Dong Huai die?
Dong Shusong Shenzhen Fan Environment:
@Dong Yun
Dong Quanji:
@Dong Yun : When did Dong Huai die? It depends on how many years he was free.
Dong Quanji:
@Dong Yun : There are Dong Huai’s prefaces all over the country. It’s a pity to have no time, but it’s just that the time was set before his death, so it’s known. Moreover, different schools quote Dong Huaixue, and even some lineages.
Dong Shusong Shenzhen Fan Environment:
@Dong Yun When was the early time?
Dong Quanji:
@Dong Yun: Wen Tianxiang was found without
Dong Shusong Shenzhen Fan Environment:
When was the early time?
Dong Quanji:
Quanxi is to attract wolves into the house, and three arches have swept two
suggest that the show-off expelling group
After all, it has completely deviated from the original intention of discussing and communicating the genealogy, but the provocation
Dong Daowen:
You have been controversial for more than ten years, and you are so energetic that you can like it, but you are still so ignorant and ridiculous
Dong Yueqing Jiujiang:
It is really unexpected. It is said that there is no record of Qian Gong, and Qian Gong does not exist. It is really ridiculous!
Dong Yun:
@Dong Shusong : Do you know there was a Dong Huai in history? Quanxi Tutorial was the one he paid and worked hard to major. If you don’t know, please Baidu, but what I want to tell you is that Yuanchao seems to be in the Song Dynasty
Dong Yun:
@Dong Shusong, @Mengshu Lao Dong : This group is the Dong family group of Quanxi, which is a member of the Dong family group of Dong family. The two may have mistakenly joined this group, please withdraw from the group by themselves.
Dong Guangliang
@Dong Yun This is the logic of the robber! There are still many unrecorded ones, which may be fake. Dong
. Dong Xilin, Xizhuang, Guangjinan:
Let me say a bad thing. How courage does the Dong family in the north take the initiative to work for the alien race at that time?
Dong Quanji:
@Dong Yun : You are late, and the group has been removed when setting off firecrackers
Dong Quanji:
【Original】Annotation analysis and comparison of "Sending Jingxuan Gong to Happy Anxu"2022-04-22
http://www.360doc.com/content/22/0422/19/8 378385_1027793989.shtml
Anhui Dong:
The ministers above have talked a lot, and they have lost family affection, but I would like to say more about the issue of 13. This 13-year generation is either not a direct line or a descendant of Dong Jin. If you don’t confirm these two points, there must be problems with this spectrum
Dong Quanji:
There are problems, but you must also keep it. There is no problem with the calculation starting from Dong Xi
Dong Quanji:
Some specialize in entering this group is not just the purpose of exploring the genealogy. In fact, I want to disgust Quanxi school
Dong Quanji:
Which one is asking for Quanxi? Look: Mangrove Old Dong:
The most urgent thing is that the Quanxi Dong family must organize their forces to revise the genealogy! The Liukeng genealogy can record 1,400 years of history because almost every generation has scholars recording history without asking others to write it on their behalf!
Dong Quanji:
Dong Huai’s book was edited earlier, and it is worth more than anything else. Wen Tianxiang is called "Golden Book", Qing Dynasty Zhejiang Quzhou genealogy, and Zhejiang's "Golden Book", which is called "Golden Book", which is based on its inevitable value
Anhui Dong:
There is controversy if there is discussion, this is a good thing,
Dong Quanji:
Can't you see who people? It’s not like discussing
Dong Quanji:
Shenzhen Fan Environment: @Mengshu Old Dong You are here and I’ll save some energy!
Dong Quanji:
Gaocheng was Dong Jun who surrendered to Yuan and rebelled against Song Dynasty. Will his descendants compile genealogy earlier than Dong Huai? It's really fifty steps to laugh one hundred steps. Some people don’t recognize the three ancestors of Gaocheng’s classics and don’t recognize their handsomeness. What qualifications do you have to talk about? I haven't even clarified the shit in my pants
Anhui Dong:
is a golden score, but I haven't figured out the above two problems, so it's hard to say
Dong Quanji:
is hard to say, or how it is, even if this score has been flowing for more than 300 years. Without this spectrum, there is no today's Liukeng's spectrum
Dong Quanji:
Dong Huai's spectrum has become a blueprint in many places. Who should I explain it clearly to? To you? I may not see Quanxi.Or is it Dong Yun who said it well, Quanxi respects history's edited genealogy
Anhui Dong:
Then how can it go?
Dong Quanji:
Clan relatives, aren’t you messing around? How to distinguish between true and false, and what spectrum was used to start using? Even if you use Dong Huai’s book and modify it at will, is it true?
Anhui Dong:
Although Dong Huai does not deny that Dong Huai’s editing of the genealogy, you have to find the truth about 13 years or so. This is what is the real study of the genealogy
Dong Quanji:
Dong Huai’s copy even if there are many mistakes between Tang Dynasty Dong Jin to humility, that is history. Can the genealogy of ancestors be modified at will
Dong Quanji:
That is what you think. It is better to have a generation in 2013, no matter how many years it is, it is the history of genealogy compilation, and retention is the best way to respect ancestors
Anhui Dong:
Otherwise there is no need to study it,
Dong Quanji:
Arbitrarily modifying it is to study the genealogy, and if it cannot be published, it is not research?
Dong Quanji:
Then what is the reason for your research
Anhui Dong:
So no one has the power to accuse
Dong Quanji:
You have fought against me for the second time
Anhui Dong:
This is not a burden,
Dong Quanji:
How is the research? Why did you study Dong Huai’s book calculate that Dong Jin has been humble for 13 years? If you study, I will present you an award
Anhui Dong:
How can I say many things?
Dong Quanji:
I have also argued in previous articles, at least there are four aspects. How many situations can you come up with? Do you study it for me? Do you want Quanxi to follow other people's practices and modify the genealogy of his ancestors?
Dong Quanji:
is useless or not, it is not up to you to judge
Anhui Dong:
Just follow up the later, how much effort is there to study the previous things?
Anhui Dong:
So, I don’t study
Dong Quanji:
Before, I won’t study it, others have modified it, and rearrange it. It is wrong to comment on Dong Huai's score based on the modified score
Anhui Dong:
A sentence does not admit that it is not a direct line, or it is not a direct line, or it is not a connection with Dong Jin, etc., etc., there are problems in this 13th generation
Dong Quanji:
At least, the Jiajing score of the Ming Dynasty has no changes except that the Quanxi is the Quanxi. To , Wanli , it is just a doubt about the previous one and will not modify it.
Anhui Dong:
It's a simple question, no need to complicate
Dong Quanji:
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Dong Quanji:
If it were Dong Jin's direct line, what would be the generation that would be added? If it is not direct, what? It’s better than modifying it and applying it directly to the whole stream!
Anhui Dong:
I can say that the surname Dong cannot be just Dong Jin, Dong Shen, Dong Zongben, and has descendants...
Dong Quanji:
Liukeng deletes the Jiajing score for more than ten generations, directly connecting to the entire stream, is it a direct line? I feel good in my heart
Dong Quanji:
No matter what, Dong Huai, as the first genealogist, left a blueprint for Liukeng and Quanxi, without clear evidence, will not be like Liukeng in the Qing Dynasty. Dong
Anhui:
You are wrong. You don’t have to worry about Liukeng for now. If you study the issue of his family tree clearly, you don’t have to argue.
Anhui:
This issue has not been studied clearly, so there is no reason to say that others
Dong Quanji:
You are making a mess now. You are making trouble like this. Liukeng is in Jiajing or Dong Huai’s book. It was not until Wanli that started with Dong He. Who will modify it, not say it? Is it right to modify it? I think you are unreasonable. I discovered the lineage between Dong Huai’s book from Dong Jin to Qianlang, but I only proposed four possibilities. No one could verify the situation of Dong Huai’s book, but after humility, it was basically accurate and had some minor flaws. If you keep saying that you are studying yourself, then you are not talking about others, aren’t you? What is there no reason to say to others? Use Dong Huai Book to modify it, and it cannot be said, and officials will not be allowed to set fires.
Dong Quanji:
Therefore, in the past few years, you arranged numbers with numbers, and they could not be artificially modified, and the arrangement was not authentic.
Anhui Dong:
No quality
Dong Quanji:
You have been lurking for a long time, you have not quality
Dong Quanji:
You have been lurking for a long time, you have not quality
Dong Quanji:
You have been lurking for a long time, you have not quality?
Dong Quanji:
You can study the reason for the lineage problem of Dong Jin to be humble in Dong Huai's book. You won the Nobel Prize ; but you can't just restrain yourself because of the previous problems
Dong Quanji:
admit that that part has defects in editing the genealogy, but the Quanxi School will not modify it at will, and will not modify it at will like other schools. After using it, you will modify it at will. Anhui Dong:
You seem to be an outsider, are you still lurking in a group? If you have any questions, just say it openly. If you can't say it, don't say it.
Dong Quanji:
Change the Dong Huai book at will. On the other hand, Dong Huai will say it openly. If you can't say it, don't say it.
Dong Quanji:
modify the Dong Huai book at will. On the other hand, Dong Huai will say it openly. It’s not that any relative of Quanxi Sect will stand up and say that you are too harsh
Dong Quanji:
Is there any need for you to continue to worry about this? Do you think it is
Dong Quanji:
I said enough yesterday and today, you are just repeating
Anhui Dong:
Just individualism
Dong Quanji:
That’s what you think
Dong Quanji:
Repeat there is no new topic, it’s just to disgust Dong Jin to be humble in Dong Huai’s Dong Huai’s book. Whether there is a problem or not, it is all history. Whoever comes up with conclusive evidence, the Quanxi School will modify it. Even if one day it will modify it, it will retain the Dong Huai Genealogy
Dong Quanji:
Quanxi School’s genealogy, keep it as it is, respect the genealogy of the Right Prime Minister of the Southern Song Dynasty. He is highly respected, and his genealogy has made various factions a blueprint, which is of great significance. Just this article should be kept without evidence
Anhui Dong:
As a researcher of genealogy, the genealogy sequence is no problem and it is correct. However, if there is a problem, you must slowly and find ways to figure it out. This is the right way
Dong Quanji:
You can say this, and no one can explain Dong Jin's humble genealogy.
Anhui Dong:
Otherwise, there would be no research word
Dong Quanji:
You are nothing more than playing the old tune again. If this part is not solved, it cannot be studied, and it is not considered research. There is no such truth in the world, nor is there such a right to restrict others.
Dong Quanji:
It is certainly possible to study how to modify it, after all, there is evidence; it is possible to study changes, after all, there are facts; it is possible to study flaws in research, and you can find the lineage more. There is no such thing as what is research and what is research. It is also impossible to stipulate that it can be studied by clarifying the lineage of Dong Huai’s book
Dong Quanji:
As for whether it is possible to discuss or not, then the comments are made by people. No one is talking about anyone behind it, no one is talking about anyone in front of others
Dong Jiawen (Hotel Management):
I think no matter how many years Dong Jin has been in the genealogy, there is no need to study it on average, just pass it on according to the original genealogy.
Dong Jiawen (Hotel Management):
Some things are never explained
Dong Quanji:
@Dong Jiawen (Hotel Management) : It’s reasonable! Today, there are still people who slander Dong Huai's descendants in Zhongshan, Guangxi
Dong Quanji:
The tombstones during the Jiajing period of the Ming Dynasty are still preserved to this day, and some people are arrogant and polite
Dong Jiawen (Hotel Management):
@Dong Quanji If you don't know, you won't blame him, you won't have the same knowledge as him.
Dong Quanji:
@Dong Jiawen (Hotel Management) : We will be calm when discussing with kindness; we will slander with malicious intentions, and we will not be accustomed to
Dong Jiawen (Hotel Management):
Ignore those who are unreasonable.
Dong Jiawen (Hotel Management):
Just do our own thing, don’t waste your mouth and energy, just let him say he wants to go.
Guangjinan Xizhuang Dong Xilin:
Quanxi is necessary to retain Dong Huai’s recipe. No matter what problems there are between Dong Jin and Qian, the recipe of the old recipe must be preserved and inherited.Like another school, the newly compiled genealogy will discard the recipes that are problematic or unfavorable to oneself, not to mention it is disrespectful to ancestors, but also take it for granted to use random addition and subtraction of the numbers of the age to rationalize the inheritance from generation to generation. This is not research, but madness, but to use one's own false achievements to harm descendants.
Dong Yueqing Jiujiang:
@Dong Quanji @Dong Jia? @Guangjinan Xizhuang Dong Xilin , (Hotel Management) likes you!
Cheng Yuan (Dong Minghong)
@Dong Quanji , you are arguing about the 13th generation of Dong Jin to Dong Qian. I don’t know how to calculate it, because there is no record of Qian’s birth and death.
I checked that Dong Jin died in 799 AD and Dong Huai died in 1262 AD. They were 463 years apart. Dong Huai was Jin Gong 21, 463÷21=22, it is normal for the 22-year-old generation to be born. Please reply.
Dong Quanji:
@Cheng Yuan (Dong Minghong) : It was from Dong Qian at the end of the Tang Dynasty
Dong Quanji:
① Dong Huaiji became a blueprint for use in various parts of the south and was circulated to Jiangsu, Zhejiang, Fujian, Guangdong, Jiangxi, Anhui, Hubei, Shaanxi, and Guizhou, with great influence. Although it has historical limitations, it belongs to the first genealogy of the Southern Song Dynasty. Even for many years from Dong Jin to Dong Qian and Dong Rang, it is difficult to erase the glory of its creation;
② Some of the lineages of Dong Huai’s genealogy were deleted and modified in some places, and the descendants were directly the sons of Dong Quanxi, and to show that they were compiled earlier than Dong Huai’s genealogy? It seems that the flaw has become arbitrarily abandoning the original genealogy as a fig leaf, and it is difficult to erase the traces of tampering with it;
③ The modified faction was just ten years after Wanli. A wise man and accomplice proposed that "the previous genealogy was not credible, start with someone." This is a pertinent and scientific approach. It is a direct connection with the subsequent clinging. It is a factional problem, and it is a factional problem, so I will not comment;
④ There is a chaotic rule in the Qing Dynasty, and now it is a slander of Dong Huai's genealogy, and instigating the Quanxi sect to forget the ancestors in order to recognize the ancestors? These bad attempts need to be revealed;
⑤ Several mathematical masters talk about how to scientifically use the genealogy as a tool for random modification, blasphemy of the ancestors' compilation, and disrupt the normal communication of genealogy across the country, and it is difficult to conceal the falsehood behind the so-called rationalization of numbers;
⑥ Some people attacked Dong Huai’s own flaws under the banner of research, but forgot their ancestors’ hundreds of years of use of Dong Huai’s genealogy, thinking that modification is research? It is believed that the research is the reason for the problem first, and it is the robber logic that knows that it cannot be done. If you don’t do this, it’s not a study. If you can’t study anything else, you can’t let others act recklessly. This is an extremely barbaric act.
Dong Quanji:
Let’s take a look: Mangrove Old Dong: The most urgent thing is that the Dong family in Quanxi must organize their strength and revise the genealogy! The Liukeng genealogy can record 1,400 years of history because almost every generation has scholars recording history without asking others to write it on their behalf!
Dong Quanji:
This itself is disrespect for the Quanxi family genealogy, and it is also urgent. Is it necessary? Secondly, "No need to ask others to write for you!" It seems to imply that Quanxipu does not want others to write for you, which is ridiculous.
Cheng Yuan (Dong Minghong)
@Dong Quanji , if Mr. Qian was from the late Tang Dynasty, how could Mr. Qian go to Mr. Qian be only about 13 years old? Later, Mr. Qian goes to Mr. Huai, each generation has been a little over the years. This is a major flaw in Dong Huai’s book. Despite this, later generations cannot verify it, so they can only use Dong Huai’s book as the basis. Among other surnames, no prime minister personally wrote a genealogy, and was recognized and praised by Prime Minister Wen Tianxiang. Although there are flaws, the flaws will not cover up the jade, because the genealogy of each race only started after the Song Dynasty, June 1st and Meishan. Before the Song Dynasty, the genealogy of is unknown, which is a limitation caused by history. Our Quanxi Tucao has been inherited from the Tang and Jin Duke to the present, and Mr. Huai has made great contributions.
Don’t listen to the people who are nitpicking in Liukeng School. Their ancestors forget their ancestors and tamper with historical facts, and they also follow the nonsense.
Like you for studying the Dong family genealogy
Dong Quanji:
@Cheng Yuan (Dong Minghong) : There were too many lineages in the front, and there were no lineages in the back
Dong Quanji:
@Cheng Yuan (Dong Minghong): As for the missing ones, I have publicly analyzed
before, Dong Guangliang
It is normal for him to have defects! It was not recorded before like it is now! Just like our family, from Zhaoshi Gong to my grandfather’s generation! I know two generations of Meiren! But Yi didn’t remember it either! In the past, many of them were passed on oral transmission! It’s normal to make mistakes!
Dong Quanji:
@Cheng Yuan (Dong Minghong) : There were too many lineages in the previous stage, but later lacked lineages
Dong Quanji:
@Cheng Yuan (Dong Minghong) As for the missing, I have publicly analyzed
before, Dong Guangliang: It is normal for
to have defects! It was not recorded before like it is now! Just like our family from Zhaoshi Gong to my grandfather’s generation! I know two generations of Meiren! But Yi didn’t remember it either! In the past, many of them were passed on oral transmission! It’s normal to make mistakes!
Cheng Yuan (Dong Minghong)
@Dong Quanji , I wonder if you have studied it? Mr. Xi gave birth to five sons. Gui, Zhang, Pei, Kun and Yuan. Mr. Gui moved to , Wuning , and the other four were all in Liukeng. Where did the descendants go? If some migrate, where will they go and how many are left in Liukeng? Those who stayed in the flow pit must have been returned to the flow pit.
This is my opinion, I don’t know what your opinion is.
Dong Quanji:
@Chengyuan (Dong Minghong) Mr. Zhang Gong moved to Jianchang Matantan. His descendants went to Duchang
Dong Quanji:
My Zhang Gong used to live in Liukeng. Later, he and his father and brother moved to Jianchang Matan. He had two sons: called Guo and Wei. After Wei Duke moved to Huangzhou, Baihe Duke did not accept his old career. Then he drove around the mountains and rivers. I occasionally Zhen (zhēn) Nankang and Kuang Li (lǐ), looking far away, I especially love the beauty of the peaks and live in Dongjia Lane in Buduchang! From this number of common people, is derived from tribes, and the most complex parts are different. Although the gold score of Bo Zuhuai is recorded, it is also brief but not detailed.
Dong Quanji:
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Dong Quanji:
King Qian has three sons: Yuan, Sui, Shu. The second sentence of the birth of sons: Yan and Xi. Duke Xi lived in Quanxi, Wuyi, and his wife Liu gave birth to five sons: Gui, Zhang, Kun, Pei, and Yuan. Mr. Zhang then went home to Quanxi, Anle Township, and married Wang to give birth to a son named Wu. Wu moved to Matan to marry Li, and gave birth to two sons: called Guo and Wei. Wei Duke moved far away to Hedu in Huguang and Huangzhou. The Duke chose Dongjiagang, the capital, and married Zhang, gave birth to a son, Jianyi, and was appointed as a Jinshi. He did not serve in the three ranks. Jianyi married Ouyang and gave birth to a son Zhongba.
Dong Quanji:
Dong Quanji:
Dong Quanji:
Kun lives in the cave; as for other migrations, it is not detailed, Cheng Yuan (Dong Minghong)
@Dong Quanji , there are also two dukes Pei and Yuan who do not know whereabouts.
Dong Quanji:
is
Cheng Yuan (Dong Minghong)
may be merged into the trap, or there may be no descendants.
Dong Quanji:
@Cheng Yuan (Dong Minghong) @Dong Yueqing At that time, all should have migrated
Dong Quanji:
After all, the court moved to Nanchang
Cheng Yuan (Dong Minghong)
@Dong Quanji , continue to search, maybe you can find
Dong Quanji:
Houzhou Chai Shizong is an emperor with great talent and strategy, and he is ready to unify the entire country. The strategy of the Later Zhou Dynasty was to first attack the Shu Kingdom and Southern Tang first, and then the Northern Expedition of Khitan . The Later Zhou was a great country in the Central Plains, and the Southern Tang was a great country in the south. If the Later Zhou wanted to unify the south, he had to attack the Southern Tang first.
Dong Xi's eldest son Dong Gui, Duke Gui "resurrected his troops in Renchen, and Guichou Qiu was ordered to lead troops out of Xu Huaixu" (reviewed that there was only one in the Five Dynasties and Ten Kingdoms in Renchen, 932 AD, and only one in the third year of Guangshun in Guichou). Many people experience dangers and return to old age and illness. Dong Gui, the eldest son of Duke Xi, was a military officer, and was ordered to lead troops out of Xuhuai and Xu, and was appointed as the commander of General Anyuan's light chariot. The tomb was buried in Huangtianfan, Jianchang (now Baicha Township, Yongxiu County). His tomb is still there. In 1970, the construction of the Zhelin Reservoir was flooded into the water (now known as the West Sea of Lushan).Gui Gong was named Chaorui and Mei Yin, married Wang, and buried with Huangtianban in Jianchang. Qixingzhuan, and was facing north and south (see "Guigong Tian Ji"). The grandson of Gui Gong Gong, Dong Youlin (1082-1144, 72 years old), whose courtesy name was Shuying, was . Northern Song (see "The Complete Book of the Imperial Siku. Liangxi Collection. Volume 52" and "Nankangfu Chronicle") from Maxi Hechang (now Dong Village, Matan, Dafang, Matan, Qiuqiujin Town, Yongxiu County). Born in the fifth year of Yuanfeng, Zhao Xu, Emperor Shenzong of Song Dynasty, he died in the Jiazi year of Emperor Gaozong of the Southern Song Dynasty (1144). He passed the Jinshi in the second year of Chongning (1103) and became the governor of Jingzhou, Hubei. Lin Sheng Xiaojun, and Jun gave birth to three sons: Rulin , Ruming and Ruji, after moving back to Tan, the surnames of Zi were divided into Shixialongtan, Xiayuan, Zhongjin, Tingfen, Wantou, Yingfen Xingzi, Ningzhou Litian, and Houhan... (See "Preface to the Tribe of the Lord of the Emperor"); the fourth son of Xi Gong, Kun, lived in Dongliyuan; Zhang Gong also went to Quanxi to Jianchang Matan, and his descendants were Zhiduchang; the sixth son of Xi Gong, Fu Gong, was appointed as the ruler of Xincai from Jiangdushi, and Qiao lived in the foot of Huangmei Mountain. He moved to Dongguan in Qichun and later moved to Guangji. The other pendants and Yuan live in Liukeng.
Wu Yue Kingdom was willing to fight for the Later Zhou Dynasty. Wu Yue Kingdom was an ally of the Later Zhou Dynasty. In , the Later Zhou Dynasty attacked the Southern Tang Dynasty, Wu Yue Kingdom, as a participating country in the Later Zhou Dynasty, sent naval troops to attack the Southern Tang Dynasty. The Southern Tang also contacted many countries to attack the Later Zhou Dynasty. , Houshu, was the party involved in the Southern Tang Dynasty, and the Khitan. From the 13th year of Baoda (955 AD) to the first year of Jiaotai (958 AD), the 3 Zhou Dynasty invaded the Southern Tang Dynasty three times, and the Tang army was defeated thousands of miles away, and the Huaihe naval army was wiped out. The Southern Tang Dynasty sold all over the northern part of the Yangtze River, including the fourteen prefectures in Huainan and the Ezhou in Hanyang in Jiangbei. Both sides "draw the river as the boundary". The Southern Tang Dynasty resigned to the Great Zhou Dynasty. Go to , , and call it the king of the country. The reign of Jiaotai was called , the fifth year of Xiande (958 AD). All the emperor's rituals and systems were reduced and lost. In order to avoid Zhou taboo, Li Jing changed his name to Jing. At the same time, the Southern Tang Dynasty conquered Zhou Zhengshuo and used it to record the year. Since then, the national strength of the Tang Dynasty has been greatly damaged and is no longer as strong as before. After this war, the Southern Tang Dynasty had no strength to compete for hegemony and could only hide in the south of the Yangtze River.
In February of the second year of Jianlong in the Song Dynasty (961), in order to avoid the forefront of the Later Zhou Dynasty, Li Jing moved the capital to Hongzhou , known as Nanchang Prefecture.
Dong Xigong was the Secretariat of the Central Secretariat, and later returned to Liukeng where his sons Zhang, Pei and Yuan lived. Soon, Dong Xigong and his wife Liu died one after another. Dong Xigong is about 65 years old. Later, the genealogy of Pei, Yuan and his descendants did not record migration. We should migrate from Liukeng and there should be no tombstones.
Dong Quanji:
Dongli source address, I estimate that it is located in Dongyuan, Huangsha Town, Xiushui County, Jiangxi Province, Jiaodongyuan Village, Xiushui Bailing Town, or the " Peach Blossom Land Records " route from Xiushui to Hunan, as mentioned by Tao Yuanming .
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After reading the above speeches, I really don’t know what the real purpose of discussing or studying genealogy is?
Dong Quanji:
@Chengyuan (Dong Minghong): You should look for the source of the branch. Promote: respect your relatives and respect your ancestors, be righteous and righteous, repay your ancestors with kindness, love your family, be filial piety and brotherhood first, hide evil and promote good, be virtuous and kind, be honest and inspiring, pay attention to ethics, correct the origin and clear the origin. As the saying goes, "If you have beauty but not praise, you will not be praised; if you call it without beauty, you will be false. If you seek truth from facts, you will not forget your ancestors."
Guangjinan Xizhuang Dong Xilin:
@Dong Jiehong The root of everything is that Liukeng unified the Xigong of Quanxi into the descendants of Liukeng! ! ! Without this, everything is peaceful. Now so much research evidence shows that Dezhao in Quanxi is not Dezhao in Liukeng!
Dong Jiawen (Hotel Management)
@Dong Jiehong The purpose of our research on family tree is very simple, that is, to trace the root cause.
Dong Jiawen (Hotel Management)
Remember: studying family tree can trace the root of the root, but not tamper with history.
Guangjinan Xizhuang Dong Xilin:
Liukeng has been ignoring the facts from the Ming Dynasty to the present, and even in order to obtain a certain Dong family, he has been revising and eliminating the genealogy and literature of his ancestors! Is this also called research?
Dong Jiawen (Hotel Management)
@Guangjinan Xizhuang Dong Xilin You can see when two Dezhaogongs were born. They are all about the same name, same surname and different dynasties. You can tell at a glance, and there is no need to argue.
Guangjinan Xizhuang Dong Xilin:
You don’t fight for people don’t know
Guangjinan Xizhuang Dong Xilin:
The source of all disputes is so
Dong Jiawen (Hotel Management)
@Guangjinan Xizhuang Dong Xilin : We inherit our virtues and do not need others to be the source of the right source.
Dong Jiawen (Hotel Management)
No need to argue, just let him continue to make mistakes forever. I believe that one day it will be corrected by a sage of knowledge.
Guangjinan Xizhuang Dong Xilin:
He Tongliu Teng Dezhao had nothing to say. The problem is that the younger generation of Quanxi Dezhao brought in
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I think the focus is Ming Zhaomu, distinguishing closeness and alienation
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One sentence blood source relationship
Dong Jiawen (Hotel Management)
@Guangjinan Xizhuang Dong Xilin: He Tongliu He can't stop him from taking us. I think we just need to be orthodox.
Dong Shice Jiangxi:
MingZhaomu, distinguish between relatives and distant. It is the focus and the purpose of discussion.
Dong Xuewang:
When I saw that the group broke out, it was necessary to discuss it, and it was not harmful to the harmony, nor could it attack each other
Dong Xuewang:
I have little research, but looking at the order of Dong Deyuan is a fake, not to mention recording Dong Huai's deeds, just from the grammar, the sentences are not smooth, the literature and theory are not understood. Is it a top scholar who is at this level of literature
Dong Lianwen Jiujiang clan:
@ Dong Xuewang Anqing Huaining
Guangjinan Xizhuang Dong Xilin:
@Dong Jiehong, @Dong Shice, Jiangxi Nankang: Correct, otherwise, it is better to be inferior to others for no reason. If you think about it, you won’t eat well
Dong Xuewang:
@Dong Guangliang: Fuyang is not familiar with, North Anhui are all the ancestral homes in the north, Shandong, Henan, Hebei, Anqing area Each surname is basically Jiangxi immigration
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@Dong Shice, Jiangxi Nankang Where do you follow which clan
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Which ancestor is to find
Dong Shice Jiangxi:
@Dong Jiehong : Your old man is wrong, there is a ancestor first and then there is a clan.
Dong Shice Jiangxi:
I am chasing the su surname Zu Dongfu , Zhensai Sect of Xingning, Guangdong.
Dong Shice Jiangxi:
@Dong Jiehong , where are you?
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@Dong Shice, Jiangxi Nankang You have found it from Dong’s father to you
Dong Shice Jiangxi:
We don’t have this ability, and we still need everyone’s efforts.
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I am looking for a direct relative, but the task is difficult
Guangjinan Xizhuang Dong Xilin:
The time, year and year in all Chinese surname genealogys are wrong, this is certain and inevitable. If you don’t believe it, just open a genealogy and carefully compare and calculate it. These problems are all in the inheritance of the genealogy. Since the Song Dynasty, there have been several wars and chaos, and the genealogy has been broken several times. In the past century, there were few surnames with clear lineage records in the Yuan Dynasty. By the Ming and Qing dynasties, the trend of cultivating genealogy was prevalent, and it was even more artificially unreliable. In modern times, the ancient genealogy texts passed down are very precious, so we must preserve them well. Even if some parts of the original genealogy are determined to be studied clearly, the original is wrong, and it can only be used. All new words are included in the score and added to the notes, that if the inheritance continues, future generations will also know the origin of the lineage. What is inheritance? This is it!
If you directly replace the old score content with new editing or new research results, this is a rebuild! Where does the inheritance come from? Without inheritance, how can China come from 5,000 years?
Dong Chengrong (Fujian)
Dong Quanji clan: all the information forwarded by
has been read. I will forward it to you using a fable posted online before: One day, the student of Confucius , Ran You , met grasshopper and cricket , on the road, and went over and asked, "What are you arguing about?" The grasshopper said first, "I said three seasons a year, and he said four seasons a year. Who are you right?" Ran You replied completely, "Of course it is all year!" The grasshopper jumped up in anger and shouted, "You are a little bitchy, a little bitchy!" Then he started a big argument with Ran You. At this time, Confucius happened to pass by here and asked, "What are you arguing about?" Ran You replied, "Teacher, what seasons are they arguing about in a year? I said it was the four seasons, and grasshopper said I was a little bitchy."The grasshopper jumped to Confucius and said first: "Teacher, I say three seasons a year, and they say four seasons a year. Who is right? "Confucius asked slowly: "You only see three seasons in a year in your life, right? "The grasshopper nodded and replied, "Yes! "Confucius said: "You say it according to your own personal experience, that's right. "The grasshopper left proudly after hearing this. After the grasshopper left, the cricket came to Confucius and asked, "Teacher, I said it's all year round, right? "Confucius asked: "You have experienced four seasons in one year in your life, right? "Cricket nodded and replied, "Yes. "Confucius said: "You are right according to your own personal experience! "The Cricket also left happily. After the grasshopper and the Cricket both left, Ran You came over and asked Confucius: "Teacher, why do you say that they are all right? "Confucius said: "The grasshopper crawled into the soil after the autumn harvest. It had never seen winter at all. How did he know that there was winter? He has only seen three seasons in his life, how can he know there are four seasons? "Ran You suddenly woke up and said, "So ignorant, so stupid! "Immediately afterwards, Confucius accused: "Isn't it stupider for you to debate with him?" "
I think it is meaningless and worthless to debate with such people, and it is simply a detrimental to their identity! Who do they want to recognize as their ancestors and their descendants, let them choose, and there is no need for others to interfere with.
We do our own things, write our own articles, and compile our own family tree, but they have no choice but to interfere.
Dong Chengrong (Fujian):
@Quanji clan: I have seen many articles about you on the Internet before, very substantial and knowledgeable, very appreciated!
Dong Chengrong (Fujian):
@Quanji clan:
You have collected a lot of historical materials and written a lot of articles. It is very substantial and knowledgeable, worthy of praise and support!
