"Qiang Qiang Threesome" VS "Round Table School": Are Dou Wentao clever or depraved?

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On September 11, 2017, the 19-year ace variety show "Qiang Qiang Threesome" , died suddenly for no reason. There are countless iron fans in the Chinese-speaking world, sad and sad, is like sending away an old friend, like saying goodbye to an era, , "sad and depressed". You know, countless old listeners, such as me, thought they could see Lao Dou retiring.

On June 28, 2017, the official WeChat account of "Qiang Qiang Three Lines" released a stop-broadcasting notice

​​Yanzhao’s children are so talented and talented, and the comeback is unknown. It seems to have a sense of comfort and protest, and it also seems to be willing to take advantage of the situation to make a small profit. "China's most insidious and greasy host" Dou Wentao, clean up your mood, Jia Yuyong, the king of the city is changing, and you are a genuine copycat. A small team of 4 people was reorganized. The men and women were gentle and well-dressed, and they continued to roam in the elegant houses with bamboo windows. This new "flag" is nowadays the famous " round table pie ". The

​​program, which started broadcasting at the end of 2016, has scored a high score of more than 8.5 on Douban in the past few seasons. It has won, and it has been rampant all the way, known as "phenomenal entertainment." Looking at its central form, it is still talking around a table; looking at its core features, it is still supported by the content. Amidst chattering and jokes, it tries to hit the nail on the head in front of the world. Therefore, understands with the greatest good faith that "Round Table School" can be regarded as the old wine and new bottle of "Qiang Qiang Threesome", borrowing the dead to return the sun.

"Round Table Pie" has been broadcast since the end of 2016, and Siji Douban scores have been high. Still not forgetting his acrid nature, always watching the line, picking up on his flaws and fluttering clothes.


I think that although is almost the same as the original team, the biggest difference between "Round Table School" and "Three Talks" lies in the exchange of spiritual essence: from the artful boldness of the tongue, to the openly self-deceptively cringe .

​​Remotely think that the original "Qiang Qiang Threesome" when it first started airing was indeed not really serious. It was originally just a "non-text program" focusing on hot jokes and hot spots. It is not suitable for eccentric children. Even the people in my Cantonese-speaking area who are most used to red lights and green hats can't stand it. He laughed and scolded it as a thing for "my lady in the salon only listened on time".

In a certain issue in 1998, Liang Wendao landed on Qiang Qiang

​​for the first time, but after "Qiang Qiang Three Lines" improved, he quickly abandoned the dark and turned to corporal Ming Li, determined to change from the "lowest" to the "most catering". Gradually and cheaply, "Qiang Qiang" has become a forum for intellectuals, shaking their lips and tongues. In other words, although on the surface it is the chatter of the East Mountain and the West Sea, it is the chatter of the fireworks and the world, and sometimes it is unavoidable, but its essence is a comment on the current situation, a social observation, and a political satire. It's just a matter of sadness, but the clever art of tongue, deep and shallow revealing the iron wrapped in the cotton, the lady does not know what to do. In 2014, "New Weekly" selected it as "China's Most Valuable TV Show in 15 Years". It deserves its name, and it is not accepted.

Over the past 19 years, the characters in "Qiang Qiang" have almost included all the "high-end and interesting" celebrities in contemporary China . From the blind host of Dou Huachao to Professor Xu, the sour professor, to the false monk Liang Daochang, from the "teacher killer" Ma Jiahui to the "anti-junior three association president" Zhu Youting to "Hate to marry" Xiaojunjun, there are shrews, celebrities and wooden beauties There are romantic talents and high-level pimps, greeted with sticks, kicking knives with flying feet, in front of the shop and back in the factory. Moreover, it seems to be desperately inviting the vulgar. The Daoism that sits upright is only occasional. Cynical and vulgar words are the norm. All kinds of "great rebellious" high-level black and gag tongues are even more spitting. Nowadays, "Z1z Wonderful Talking Z2z" is almost dismissive of the "struggling and profound" and "high-level sense of effort".

, a popular entertainment complex in recent years, "Wonderful Flower Talk"

​​Yes, it is too much like a show that specializes in negative energy. The squinting old men gather gossip, and they have been talking for 20 years. But anyone with a discerning eye understands that there is always the arrogant sentiment of "how much things are going to happen in the world, and all the things in the world are laughing and talking." Batches of "litters outside the material", talking and laughing, are responsible and experienced, accompany those who love to think and preserve their conscience, and have known themselves and enemies for the past 20 years, as if they have learned from each other. XuZidong recalled that the 19 years of "Qiang Qiang" were also 19 years of earth-shaking Chinese society. Thousands of programs can be used as "Chinese social history materials to study."

​​Some people laughed at it as "Liu Changle version of the happy base camp", which is an unkind distortion; Dou Wentao himself said that "this is a program for the middle-aged and elderly people" is too arrogant and self-defeating. "Qiang Qiang" is indeed the benchmark of contemporary Chinese talk shows. Its greatest value lies in the fact that what it conveys is not knowledge, but a kind of idea, with common sense to tell people, commonly known as "private goods."

Dou Wentao, born in Shijiazhuang in 1967, graduated from the Department of Journalism of Wuhan University in 1989


On October 20, 2016, two years after "Qiang Qiang" died of life, his "posthumous son" and "Round Table School", under the operation of Youku "See Ideal", Came into being.

​​But after the three seasons of "Round Table Pie", at least the audience like me and some friends around me are disappointed: is not only getting more and more persuaded, but also getting more and more boring, almost completely eliminated. The depth and vigor of "Qiang Qiang", contemplating the frivolity of current affairs and the intoxication of the wind and moon, stuffed the faces of all the red men and green women. And these are exactly what "Qiang Qiang" has mocked for more than 10 years. If "Qiang Qiang" is the essence of entertainment shell packaging, then "Round Table School" is a real entertainment complex.

The rest of "Round Table Pie" is the same, except for the talk show form, and nothing more than the ostentatious appearance. Yes, make a pot of tea, burn a stick of incense, a few machines, a few old friends, after a meal, chat about life, talk about the world, lively and fragrant, the topic is urban and advanced. Naked articles, blind dates, money and wine, dinners, gossip readings in the literary circle, pastime guides in the celebrity circle, bits and pieces, harmless to humans and animals. Deep is enough, and the forced grid is even fuller, but it's floating and empty and incomprehensible, giving people a feeling of blogging on the Weibo of advanced people. Perhaps, it is the most suitable for the moment: light, playful, fragmented, looking at everything with an entertaining attitude, and all the dirt outside the door, all the struggles of the bitter people, the red wine is light and light.

​​The decoration of "Round Table Pie" is on the surface a clear stream in the fast food culture, but its spiritual essence is still the legacy of the helpless literati in the past. It is the self-confidence of the daddy in the hustle and bustle after playing everything. Cut—but at the same time, I didn’t even have the energy to drive at every turn in "Qiangqiang". How silvery, coughing! In the 34th episode of A Dream of Red Mansions, Aunt Feng is so contemptuous, "You still pretend! Everyone knows what you say", "Round Table School" always appears weak.

​​Qiang Qiang Iron Triangle: Dou Wentao, Xu Zidong, Liang Wendao

​​It can be said that "Qiang Qiang" is wrapped in the intellectual style of "clear discussion", and "Round Table School" is indeed only the "clear talk" of the prosperous literati , it is bypassed In one circle, I returned to the self-anaesthesia at the beginning of "Qiang Qiang Threesome". From then on, the latitude and longitude are not allowed, and the gossip is difficult to achieve. I think that the sudden death of and the popularity of the "Round Table School" after the "revision" of "Qiang Qiang Three Lines" actually implies that in this era, the mature minority will eventually be swallowed by the waves before and after. One shabby room and three smelly mouths could not survive.

​​Therefore, is compared with "Three People" which "must be my teacher", "Round Table School" is an upgrade, not to be honest. ranges from triangular "talks" to mellow "sects", from reviews of bad governance in various countries, from arrogant discussions about personnel conflicts, to exaggerated selling points that cater to "western food", to invitations Come to Jiang Fangzhou and other Internet celebrities to catch hot spots, boasting to the extreme is a petty bourgeoisie talking material library. The domineering side of "Phoenix Yu Fei, He Mingqiang" in the past was suddenly depressed.

​​The late essayist He Manzi once said, "This kind of fake elegance, pseudo-beauty, like a fisheye; but it is worse than fisheye." I can't say "Round Table Pie" is "bad", but it is really boring. is a kitsch from media.


But I have no contempt for the "degenerate" of "Round Table", only sympathy. "Round Table School" is, as it said, a last resort to converge. It is better to say that the intellectuals who are aware of current affairs have once again displayed their exquisite words. To put it bluntly, they escaped, Dou WentaoIt is a "deserter".

​​Lu Xun said that since there was a writing pass in the Qing Dynasty, the cowardly Chinese literati would not be able to do wild history. Today, "Qiang Qiang" programs are gradually being included by the market and others because of their "wildness". The masses are so fierce and demanding, so we don't have to be nervous, we also understand the difficulty of speaking. Especially telling the truth, telling the truth, saying different things, saying offensive things, saying bad things.

In a certain period in 2000, Xu Zidong, who was teaching at Lingnan University, first boarded Qiang Qiang

​​and replaced Cao Juren’s famous old saying, from "Qiang Qiang" to "Round Table School", his flesh and blood after being replaced What he pointed out to the audience was the plastic surgery and alienation of “from Kong Rong to Tao Yuanming” by intellectuals all over the world in the past 20 years, no matter whether it was active or forced. It even tells us with its remnants that, in the eyes of the masses, elite intellectuals always seem to be suspicious, unable to breathe the secret pain.

​​Therefore, the "Round Table Pie" is more refined. The original Jiaduobao has been replaced with the famous Moutai wine. Wang Hua is really popular. Xiaomin Kusano will listen to cheers and hear the wind. Be careful, and rigor is more rigorous, but it's also like walking on thin ice, pretending to be pretentious, and looking at each other coldly, like Yutang Golden Horse, bamboo fence hut, always sad.

"Round Table Pie" poster

​​Obviously, this is a group of wounded soldiers withdrawing from the front line of public opinion, talking about ghosts in the "Dushanzhai" fighting spirit, everyone’s strong face, laughter and glistening tongue, there is a sense of weariness. And tired of vulgarity. The Xu Zidongs of "Round Table School" have become obedient and advanced. They are struggling to be elegant and decent as a new middle-class or upper-class gentleman. They have been worn down to the gloom and forbearance, and lie and sorrow are all confused.

​​From Dou Wentao to Ma Weidu, who is not a clever talk show master, the conversation has always been calm and calm, coping with Yuru. Moreover, with the current flow, the responsibilities have faded and the burdens have disappeared. Of course, it feels more ups and downs. But vulgar, vulgar, and kitsch styles inevitably follow. Several people took a sip of alcohol and laughed stubbornly with their tongues. They were all signs of excessive alcohol and kidney failure, just like a symposium of illness exchanges. "Qiangqiang" old wine revisited, the fragrance is not there.

Wannian guest Zhou Yijun

​​I think, perhaps even Dou Wentao himself cannot deny that "Qiang Qiang" has profound meaning, and "Round Table School" is pure business. He has described his state of mind several times, and the subtext is saying that he did "Round Table Pie" for Money, and he couldn't stop it, but he was ashamed.


I think there must be countless loyal fans just like me, and they won’t be pleased with the bells and whistles of "Round Table Pie", but they are still more interested in "Qiang Qiang Threesome" in the cool tile house. Connect.

Well, it is really cruel

​​Although we all know that Dou Wentao and his "Round Table Pie" are also a last resort. He is not a Buddhist Taoist, there is another universe to go. Regarding the matter, it is unkind to blame him so politely, but who made him start so high! Moreover, even though standing and talking can't hurt back, and bashing people out, in fact, the "Round Table School" as an entertainment complex is still the high standard of similar domestic programs.

​​Dou Wentao in my eyes: I have spent half my life pretending to be ignorant, obscene, and greasy

​​There is no permanent banquet in the world. However, as an old fan of "Qiang Qiang", I cannot help but regret the frivolous, sophisticated, and sleek turn of "Round Table School". And from the experience of the "Round Table School", we can also see that once anything is incorporated or transformed by the "market", there will always be great sacrifices, even the price of meat and bones. Speaking of it, it seems to be talking about some jokes, but this is actually the case.

​​As for it now, no matter what it is, no matter what it is, what kind of talk is gratifying, what kind of four-six-six, what kind of argumentation, it is no longer the inner line of the "three-person" in the past, and it is not the old driver Dou Wentao of the past. . The faraway "Qiang Qiang Threesome" gradually resembles Tao An Mengyi and Xihu Mengxun in Zhang Dai's works, everything will be distorted, but everything is trapped in the amber-like past, forming a black hole of memory.

"Qiangqiang three people, see you after the ad", and never see again.

​​just, there must be a special footnote at the end, I criticizeThe point is never the "Round Table School" itself, but the power that prevents "Qiang Qiang" from being so charming.

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