"Why don't I take a chair with a backrest, it's uncomfortable to sit without a backrest," the staff member said.
"The picture is not good, so let's do it." Duan Yihong said. So he crouched and talked for more than 30 minutes. It's like an old man, sitting on the road, chatting with another old man. However, there is no bottle of "Big Green Stick" in his hand.
"I don't have anything, resources, connections, judgment of the market..." It was the first time I was a "producer", and Duan Yihong was also curious about how much he dared to step out of the actor's comfort zone, "but I have the desire to create and The obligation to express".
On September 9th, Duan Yihong will be the producer of the web drama " " for the first time. Starting from this day, "he" will temporarily stay away from civilization and break into a barren wilderness.
give up "brain burning"
Beiqing Daily: How do we understand the title of "Double Exploring"?
Duan Yihong: The process of rebranding any film will suffer a lot of setbacks. Personally, I prefer the name "The Twin Towers", and the film's story is also fictitious in the place "The Twin Towers", but we didn't expect that we actually found the city of Twin Towers when we checked. We were afraid that someone would take a seat, so we dispelled the idea.
We didn’t name the film before and during the shooting, because we found that the quality of a work, whether it’s attractive, and whether the characters are active or not require a long period of exploration. After the experience, we may come up with one name. In the end, I chose "Shuangtan". I personally feel that there is some temperament of the Republic of China, but everyone thinks it is good, including the platform.
The meaning of the word "tan" in "double tan" is also different. As a police officer, Li Huiyan, the origin of his "exploration" was a kidnapping case. The travels created by Dapeng were actually searching for himself and also "exploring" the story of his father's past. This film is a story that begins with "Exploration".
Beiqing Daily: The name "Double Detective" has a feeling of " duality ". The poster including the film is also composed of "black and white". This film should convey to the audience What kind of "good and evil", "right and wrong" and "black and white" views?
Duan Yihong: In terms of "good and evil", there must be a clear distinction, but at the level of human nature, it cannot be understood simply and rudely. The so-called simplicity means that the old section has shaped a policeman again this time. I have indeed contacted many policemen because of the convenience of creation. They are all real people and experienced real cases, but why did they appear in the works? Among them, these people and things will easily be "fake"? This is a very urgent question for us creators.
There are indeed a lot of homogenized works. The creators are really struggling to explore different possibilities through the works. Li Huiyan in this film is another criminal policeman. What I am interested in is that the criminal policeman is his profession and his spirit. Strength and faith. What I am thinking is, can this kind of belief be so "hard" in different time and space? Because he is a flesh and a person. This is what I am interested in, I want to enlarge it, enlarge it.
"The Twin Towers" is the first time for Li Huiyan in this icy and snowy environment. How long can his faith persist in the situation of tens of degrees below zero, and what strength supports him-does he have a time to sway him? He didn't even think that he would stick to it in the end-this is human nature. This is what I "explored" in the story of "The Two Towers".
We once blindly wanted to find a kind of brain-burning plot, blindly looking for the kind of storytelling that is constantly inverted, which is indeed a bit stretched. To be honest, we are really a little bit powerless. When we blindly pursue these things in the storyline, we will forget the kind of things that support it. This balance and the kind of things we want to "enough" always fail to achieve a sense of proportion. As a result, it dilutes our ability to discover the meaning of life itself.
So we resolutely gave up the search for "brain burning" and looked for a new direction, that is, the kind of meaning we want to express in "Double Detective" in the end.
Balance and pain in front of traffic
Beiqing Daily: When giving up "brain burn" and "suspense",Does it also mean giving up traffic?
Duan Yihong: The audience's aesthetic is a "double-edged sword" for creators. Of course we need to understand the aesthetic needs of the audience, but we blindly compromise and cater to whether we can afford it.
I am not going to emphasize that we used to be a film-making team. However, a team that makes a movie, or a team with a more literary and artistic temperament, makes a web drama, it must have its limitations, it is easy to be lonely and self-appreciated-it doesn't matter how you understand it. But web drama is not like this. It requires more audiences to understand the stories you want to tell and the ideas you want to express. This is our homework.
However, it is impossible for a work to satisfy all audiences, otherwise for us, there will be no persistence-where are we? The present presentation of this work is a result of our team's deliberation. It must have some imperfections, but it is at our level two years ago. I want to explore the character’s own emotions, but also to explore the boundaries between civilization and wildness and the truth of human nature. In this case, it is really difficult to find the so-called reversal of the storyline and the brain-burning of the bridge setting. .
We have also watched some western movies, and the plot is very catchy. But it is even more difficult to shape the character image, the material sense of the person, and the soul of the character. To achieve that effect, at least two years of scripting must be done. So we should be a little bit smaller, be more safe, and enlarge some of the things we are good at and focus on.
Beiqing Daily: Where is the boundary between "self-appreciation of loneliness" and "persistence to oneself"?
Duan Yihong: The creators all hope that their works will have the greatest effect in the end. But there is a question behind this: have you considered the aesthetics of the recipient group of your work? In the early stage of the creation of "The Two Towers", the platform reminded us that there must be something that conforms to "big data" in the work. I am not going to reject big data, but rather to attract more audiences while maintaining our own style and expression.
For example, some creators want their work to be liked by 90% of the audience, I said I want 70%, and I can ignore the other 30% of the audience.Don't cater to it. This point must be said thoroughly in advance, not to mention that in the end, it is regrettable that the 30% of the audience is missing. You have to drop something before creating.
Beiqing Daily: Is this process painful?
Duan Yihong: Pain is in "balance", but for example, if we believe that this is "70%", he will not be in pain. I'm afraid we will think about 80% for a while, and reach 90% for a while...This is painful.
Beiqing Daily: In this regard, does the platform put a lot of pressure on you?
Duan Yihong: Without the support of the platform, "Shuangtan" would not be completed so quickly. I am also curious why they trust a small team like us so much. Later I realized that they want to build a reputation and create a work that cares about the content. To this end, they have to give up something. Because some of the works they make that are more market-recognized or data-recognized are indeed not what we are good at.
The obligation to express
Beiqing Daily: Producer and actor, which identity are you better at?
Duan Yihong: I am better at actors. Before, I always rejected "supervisor" and struggled with this "identity". Because in my heart, "producer" needs to look up to see, he is responsible for the artistic level and value of a work. Secondly, he must have a wealth of personal connections, which is what is now called "resources." Furthermore, he can also make a judgment on today's market. And me, nothing.
Beiqing Daily: Do you dare to be a producer if you don't have anything?
Duan Yihong: You can stop asking me—I am too self-conscious. Am I "Hi"? no. Because to this day, I always think that I am soberly protecting a kind of actor's life circle, a comfort zone that creators should have as much as possible. In addition, I am also worried that the outside world will question my increased identity. So when the filming started, I didn't have any delay in agreeing to the status of "producer".
From preparation to shooting, I found that I didn’t have to worry about the identity of "producer", but kept the identity of a creator, but I said more than before.I have a lot of communication with people, and it’s ok to have the status of producer or not, and it doesn’t make me so irritable. In fact, before, when I was an actor, I would also express my opinions on costumes, makeup, scenes, etc. I also heard some people’s doubts, and I myself would ask myself if I said too much, but No one stipulates what an actor should say, what should not be said-"You are too ignorant", but what should an actor know?
However, put me in a team of creators. I don’t distinguish these things. I just feel that I have read the script and dug into this character. I feel the scenes of life. I have the desire to create and express. Obligation-yes, an obligation to express.
Beiqing Daily: Why did you put yourself in the comfort zone of an actor before?
Duan Yihong: I don't want to care too much. Because the sloppy voices will make me feel a kind of irritability. This irritability is actually an escape. I haven't cultivated the mature mentality, that is, I can keep a calm mind when I see something.
Out of the halo
Beiqing Daily: You play the policeman Li Huiyan this time. How is this policeman's image different from that of the police in the past? I think he also has many small shortcomings or minor problems, such as digging drains at home but relying on people's money? What is the meaning of this ditch that has not been buried?
Duan Yihong: Reality is what I and this drama pursue. The truth must come from the character and the background, scene, family and character in which he lives. What we require and emphasize is that there must be a breath of "soil". Only by establishing this kind of soil atmosphere, will it have a sense of substitution for the audience, and the audience will feel that this person is a person around us. Li Huiyan continued this line of thinking to create.
For example, water ditch has meaning. When the entire 16 episodes ended, Li Huiyan experienced the first life and death in his life. Finally, whether the ditch is buried or not becomes unimportant.People need to experience it, and faith will only become harder after experiencing baptism again and again.
Beiqing Daily: As a well-known actor, the "actor" that people often say in their mouths, how to get out of this halo and experience the life of the so-called ordinary people?
Duan Yihong: Aura is important to actors. It will give actors more opportunities to shoot the works they want, because actors are passive. But halo can also cause trouble. Infatuation with the halo is a terrible sign for creators.
If an actor still has a vision and wants to continue to rise on the road of art, the stage of climbing may be the most important. I slowly adapt and enjoy this process of climbing.
Beiqing Daily: Will ordinary people have a natural distance from you?
Duan Yihong: Do it! When filming ": the sun scorching my heart ", I lived in Xiamen for 16 days. I specifically contact them (the police) during the Chinese New Year. One of the deputy directors of the police station did not wait to see me. He got up on business and solved several big cases without "pinching" me. I stayed with them for three days and found out that the police treated me as an actor.
I specifically looked for the policeman who didn't want to see me. On the second day of the new year, I chatted with him from 8 am to 4 am. Finally, he sent me down from the fifth floor and put me in the car again, which shows that he accepted me. Within a few days, I heard their police say that the deputy director said at the conference, "I have never seen a star or an actor live like this. As a policeman, we should see..."
The voice outside, We can't control it. But from graduation to today, as an actor, you have chosen your own way and direction, then you do it. Time will prove it, and the work will prove it-we are not talking about doing one set.
Text/Beijing Youth Daily reporter Man Yi Qiao Ying
Photography/Beijing Youth Daily reporter Hao Yi
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