Ideal ONE, which has been on the market for four years, has been the only storefront of the Ideal brand for so long and has earned reputation and sales for Ideal, but I didn’t expect that it would be surprising that it would be impossible to survive in this way.

[ Pacific Auto Review Channel] Ideal ONE (Inquiry for the lowest price | Check the allocation) The previous criticisms will not be described here, and you will understand them all. Ideal ONE, which has been on the market for four years, has been the only storefront of the Ideal brand for so long and has earned reputation and sales for Ideal, but I didn’t expect that it would be surprising that it would be impossible to survive in this way. Fortunately, the 7, 8 and 9 are all very successful this year, and they have won a lot of reputation as soon as they are launched. We have also tested the L8 and L9 in-depth before, and the overall product strength is indeed much higher than that of Ideal ONE.

But for a long time, no one seems to have compared Ideal L8 (query the lowest price|check the parameters) this veritable successor with Ideal ONE. So today we will use actual measured data to see if the new car is really better than the ideal ONE in all aspects. The purpose of comparison is actually not to say how bad L8 is or how bad ONE is. We hope that from the comparison between the two cars, we can see how great the progress of Ideal has in recent years, or to put it more than that, as one of the representatives of our new domestic forces, we can see how much progress China has made in just four years.

Model Review

More than a child is easy to fight!

The birth of Ideal L7, L8 and L9 actually makes us admire the product matrix planning of Li Xiang . Rather than saying that they are three car series, they are different models and price levels of the same car. If you think about it carefully, the ideal L7 of 339,800-379,800 yuan, the ideal L8 of 359,800-399,800 yuan, and the ideal L9 of 459,800 yuan are a progressive relationship in terms of price. Moreover, L7 can be regarded as the five-seater version of L8, while the six-seater version is a six-seater version, which directly makes three cars. Li Xiang's move is indeed very high. I'll leave another homework. You can think about the 789 competing models, and then look back at the size, configuration and power of these three brothers. Perhaps you will find that they really have no competitors (not considering non-product factors such as value preservation, quality control, and brand influence).

Looking back at Ideal ONE, it seems to be a bit behind with 349,800 yuan, and it is only 10,000 yuan cheaper than Ideal L8's minimum configuration, as if it is no longer a player of the same level. Don't rush to refute first, and then you will know why I am so sure.

"It's easy to fight after having more children? Ideal L9/L8 vs Ideal ONE》

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space comparison

ideal L8 has slightly improved, although not particularly many

Before starting the comparison, we might as well sort out the model of ideal car . Ideal Auto is establishing a more complete and clear product series, and L represents the SUV series of extended-range electric platform. The launch of L8 actually took over the position of the first model Ideal ONE. Therefore, the models under Ideal all start with L and represent the model size with digital size, which is divided into the following product matrix:

Ideal L9: Home Smart Flagship Six-Seater SUV (full size, 459,800 yuan);

Ideal L8: Home Smart Deluxe Six-Seater SUV (medium and large, 359,800-399,800 yuan);

Ideal L7: Home Smart Flagship Five-Seater SUV (medium and large, 339,800-379,800 yuan);

Ideal L6: Home Smart Deluxe Five-Seater SUV (medium and large, 339,800-379,800 yuan);

Ideal L6: Home Smart Deluxe Five-Seater SUV (medium and large, 300,000 yuan).

First of all, from the comparison of sizes, the three brothers of 789 are all bigger than ideal ONE, whether in terms of length, width, height or size. The other data of Ideal L8 and L7 are exactly the same except for the length and height of the car. It is not difficult to see that the three brothers should also give more tips than ideal ONE in terms of interior space. Since L8 is the successor, we will also compare it with the ideal ONE separately to compare the driving space of the two in the car.

First of all, although the space in the front row has not changed much, the new L8 design gear shifting method also gives the secondary center console a more advanced design, and the driver can also put the entire arm on it, which has a good improvement in overall comfort.Although the space in the second and third rows is only slightly improved, the more comfortable and thicker seats (especially the third row) also occupy more space, and the comfort of the passenger has also become a 1+12 effect. The subjective experience of the ideal L8 is indeed much more comfortable than the ideal ONE.

chassis, steering feel, and field of view comparison

Ideal L8 has a higher degree of optimization

Before officially starting the actual test data comparison, let’s compare some objective test points to see if Ideal L8 will be more advanced. The impression that Ideal ONE gives everyone is the comfort orientation. Power is not the ideal ONE should pay attention to. After all, comfort is the first priority for daddy cars, and it is not as good as wife and children to sit comfortably every second. But with contrast, we can feel it more clearly. It turns out that we can sit more comfortably and drive more easily.

The ideal ONE suspension is available in two modes: comfortable and standard, corresponding to the adjustment of the damping variable vibration damper. In fact, it is enough to choose a standard mode for general urban roads and highways, so that the body stability is better and it is not so easy for passengers to feel staggering. If the road quality is relatively average, choosing the comfort mode will make the vibration more delicate.

and ideal L8 are equipped with air suspension standard, supporting three height adjustable, and the rear suspension also uses a more advanced five-link independent suspension. After experiencing the Ideal L8 for a few days, it was still a bit shaky when the suspension was adjusted to the highest, but it would be a little better than the Ideal ONE. So I prefer to adjust the suspension to the lowest level. Although it is still swaying, it also has a better driving experience.

Power versus

Speed ​​faster, with a longer battery life and lower noise

Ideal L8 is equipped with a self-developed 1.5T four-cylinder full Miller cycle engine as a range extender, with a maximum power of 113kW, thermal efficiency reaches 40.5%, and CLTC operating conditions fuel consumption is 5.9L/100km in fuel priority mode. In terms of driving, it is equipped with an intelligent four-wheel drive system, with a maximum power of 130kW of front drive motor and a maximum power of 200kW of rear drive motor. The total power of the vehicle reaches 330kW and a torque of 620N·m. In addition, its battery capacity is 42.8kWh. Under CLTC conditions, its comprehensive endurance reaches 1315km and its pure electric range is 210km; under WLTC conditions, its comprehensive endurance reaches 1100km and its pure electric range is 175km.

Comparing the data of Ideal ONE, L8 has indeed made good improvements in all aspects. So this successor is not only a comfortable "dad's grocery car", but also a fierce "dad's chariot".

Previously, our Zhan Peng also gave a detailed video experience for these two cars. Interested friends, please see how he evaluates these two power systems.

Ideal L8 is 1.08 seconds faster

00 acceleration test

In this acceleration test, in order to compare their fastest speed, we fully charged the battery and maintained it above 90%. In fact, whether it is ideal ONE or ideal L8, the acceleration time varies greatly with different power. The other two cars are set to pure electric priority and turn on the sports mode, while the ESP electronic stability system cannot be turned off.

Ideal ONE at low battery conditions have no acceleration gameplay, because the results of all modes are similar. However, when the power exceeds 60%, you can turn on the catapult mode, which makes the gameplay richer. The fastest acceleration mode in actual measurement is the sports + ejection mode, with a score of 6.49 seconds, which is closer to the official 6.5-second data. However, the actual body feeling does not have a fast acceleration feeling, and it is even more like a fuel car. Relatively speaking, such a power output is more comfortable.

The power output of ideal L8 is not as linear as ideal ONE. It can also be seen from the acceleration curve that its power output changes more. The power output is relatively gentle in the first 0.2 seconds, as if it takes a reaction time. However, with the arrival of power, the high-rise front of the car appeared along with the accelerating pushback feeling, and the final acceleration time of 0-100km/h was 5.41 seconds.

From the perspective of time, the Ideal L8 has 1.08 seconds more than the Ideal ONE. After all, the Ideal L8 has greater horsepower and greater torque, and we are not surprised by this result. As for the actual body feeling, the ideal L8 does give people a more like a pure electric car, but remember, the premise is that your L8 has a battery capacity of more than 60%.

Ideal L8 braking distance is shorter

100-0km/h braking test

Ideal ONE's braking distance is not excellent, and it can even be said to be below the average level. However, Ideal L8 also won a goal and pulled its score to the passing line, but it was not excellent. Therefore, you must always pay attention to safety when driving such medium and large cars, maintain a distance from the vehicle, and brake in time.

Ideal L8 noise is greatly improved

Noise test

As a range-extended vehicle model, we need more tests for different working conditions when testing noise. In addition to the conventional idle speed, 60km/h, 90km/h and 120km/h, there are also 20% of the battery capacity (the range-extender remains in operation) and 80% (at low speed, the range-extender does not work), and the noise level at different speeds.

It is not difficult to see that the ideal L8 has better sound insulation level, especially in idle speed and vulgar situations. However, with the intervention of range extenders, their noise gap is getting shorter and shorter. When driving at high speed, the difference between the two is small because the engine sound will appear when the throttle is high, and it combines wind noise and tire noise. Therefore, Ideal L8 may also need to optimize the noise problem when driving at high speed.

Smart Hardware Comparison

Ideal L8 Pro is closer to

The ideal L8 in this comparison test is a more expensive MAX model (powertrain, chassis and Pro models are consistent), so we won't compare the actual smart test, but we can also find out from the hardware level.

is not difficult to see that in fact, the Ideal ONE, which has a price difference of 10,000, is closer to the Ideal L8 Pro, has a smart hardware level, but it has also been greatly improved.First of all, the L8 Pro uses the latest generation of intelligent assisted driving system AD Pro, but we have all been able to test drive the Pro model for the time being, so we will not comment on whether it is smarter.

In addition, in terms of chips, Ideal ONE is obviously a bit behind. It is equipped with Horizon Journey 3 with only 10TOPS computing power, and it also has two more installations. The L8 Pro, one Horizon Journey 5, has a computing power of 128TOPS, which is enough to show how much progress the automobile has made in intelligence in the past four years.

In addition, Ideal L8 Pro also uses 5 additional 2 million cameras to replace the 4 millimeter wave radars on Ideal ONE. I believe this is also related to the changes in the AD Pro intelligent driving assistance system solution. We have experienced AD Max many times, whether on L9 or L8 MAX, so we are looking forward to testing the AD Pro intelligent assisted driving system of L8 Pro, and we will continue to track and report.

Summary

Ideal has developed from ideal ONE to 789 three brothers, which can actually be regarded as the development of our domestic automobile manufacturing level. In just four years, our new forces and independent brands have successively brought out products that satisfy consumers, which also reflects the vigorous development of my country's strength level from the perspective of it. As consumers, we are of course happy, just like Ideal ONE and Ideal L8. We can buy better products with the same money.

However, on the eve of the launch of Ideal L8, Ideal's operation is really incomprehensible. This practice of irresponsible transfer of replacement costs to customers will undoubtedly cause irreparable losses to their reputation. Perhaps the next thing that domestic car brands need to understand is market and customer care. No matter how good the product is, it will be useless if the service is not good. (Photo/Text/Photo: Pacific Auto Ke Kaiwen)