运动超人张伯伦各种运动都掌握美:奥尼尔、字母哥和LBJ的混合体

2022年10月09日09:17:17 热门 1124

Since Joel Embiid marveled at Wilt Chamberlain's athleticism during the ASG, here's a new video just to show everyone the kind of athleticism was talking about:

全明星赛期间,乔尔-恩比德在场下和队友聊天时表达了对于威尔特-张伯伦出色运动能力的惊叹。下面这个视频就来向诸位看官展示篮球皇帝的过人之处:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCRIB6ZBSA4

Wilt may be one of the most athletic people that size that has ever existed, 300 plus pounds at times and over 7 feet tall and he was a world class athlete from his teenage years into his 50's and considered competitive in a variety of sports outside of basketball. Decided to put this together to refresh our memories of some of the things that made Wilt such an all-around athlete

张伯伦的运动能力也许在和他身型相仿的人群里是冠古绝今了。最多时不止135公斤的体重加上超过210厘米的身高,让张伯伦从青春年少到年逾半百都保持着世界一流运动员的水准,并被公认在篮球之外的其他许多体育运动领域都展现出了竞争力。我决定做这个视频来大家共同回忆一下,是什么让张伯伦如此的无所不能。

运动超人张伯伦各种运动都掌握美:奥尼尔、字母哥和LBJ的混合体 - 天天要闻

UPDATE: Joel Embiid liked this video on twitter. The Process has been tuning in!

更新:大帝上线啦!他给发在推特上的这个视频点了赞!

注:因版权问题,该视频无法上传,还请广大JRs见谅。


[–]shanmustafa 1493 指标 21小时前

the clip of wilt running full court is terrifying, also very thankful for wilt chamberlain archives

张伯伦全场飞奔跑快攻那一段真是吓到我了。向《威尔特-张伯伦档案》频道的各位老哥致敬啦,感谢你们带来的精彩内容。

[–]NBAmx3552 409 指标 21小时前

The clip at 3:57... Running full sprint, behind the back pass full speed... While being that fucking huge

注意这个视频3分57秒的地方...这么大个的一名中锋,开了极速一样带球冲刺,全速奔跑的时候还能玩一手背传。

[–][GSW] Draymond GreenMacDerfus 103 指标 19小时前

This is why I refer to Wilt as a mythical creature.

勇士球迷:所以我不会说张大帅的身体素质太禽兽了。因为他老人家是奇禽异兽。

[–]Bullsxconzo 55 指标 11小时前

That clip seriously looked like some sort of tape that people are trying to figure out if it's proof he exists.

公牛球迷:这段视频里的内容太匪夷所思了,我仿佛在看一期《走近科学》:威尔特-张伯伦,神话传说还是确有其人?

[–]Lakers1996 231 指标 21小时前

my thoughts from watching this as well, never seen someone that size run like that

湖人球迷:我和层主的想法一样,人高马大还能这般健步如飞,开了眼了。

[–][TOR] Amir JohnsonModernPoultry 310 指标 19小时前

Keep in mind, all these clips of Wilt doing insane athletic things are also with him wearing old school Converse. None of the modern day basketball shoe technology

猛龙球迷:大家别忘了,所有这些视频里飞天遁地的张伯伦都是穿着老款的匡威球鞋。现如今各种高端的球鞋科技他可是都没享受到。

[–]BladeofSouls 75 指标 13小时前

Imagine him wearing BoostFoam tech shoes, long shorts, comfy jerseys, and compression sleeves NBA players wear nowadays. Won't do too much but boost his performance a bit.

想象一下,如果让张伯伦穿着如今NBA球员会穿的BoostFoam 材质的球鞋,舒适的球衣和长款球裤,再配上加压护臂。不是说这样他就变身超人了,但是多少还会提升他的运动表现。

It's insane guys back in the 50's played around 48 minutes a game with back in the past tech, with guys now with comfy shoes and compression fitted tech, yet we hear more injuries now than then.

追忆往昔,曾经在五十年代打球的那批老大爷们真是不可思议。就靠着科技含量低得可怜的装备,每场比赛都几乎打满全场。现在的球员们有着更舒适的球鞋和压力贴合技术,可是反而更多地遭受了伤病侵袭。

However, a reason as to that could be the rise of social media and the NBA being more open than it was in the 50s. Another thing could be how the speed, pace, and demands of the game have increased, with the game of basketball changed into a faster, more run and gun style. The athletic demands for players have increased compared to those players back then, with our guys being taller, stronger, quicker, and more athletic.

话虽如此,也许是因为社交媒体的兴旺和NBA远超以往的开放程度,才让我们现在更容易了解球员的伤病消息。另一个可能的原因是篮球比赛现在进化到了一个更快速,更接近于跑轰的打法潮流。随之比赛中的球员运转速度,比赛节奏和进行比赛的复杂性都有了提升。现在的球员普遍更快更高更强,运动能力更加,因此在当下打球对于球员运动能力的要求也是以前的球员们没法比的。

[–]CelticsODomincanB 66 指标 11小时前

Also pro athletes played thru injuries more back then because it wasn’t a millions of dollars job and not playing meant losing their main source of income. They made more than the average worker, but it wasn’t uncommon to have a job during the off-season back then.

绿军球迷:我再补充一点,过去的职业运动员可没办法和现在一样,签一纸合同就能挣个几百万刀。不上场就等于说失去了主要的经济来源,所以他们更倾向于带伤上阵。他们确实还不至于和工薪阶层比工资单,但是那时候很多球员在休赛季都会另打一份工。


[–]76ersdavesays 83 指标 20小时前

Holy shit... that HAS to be sped up. No way can someone that big be that fast...

76人球迷:我了个去……这肯定是哪个时间领主把我的视频快放了。这分明就是李逵的身,戴宗的腿...

[–]Trail BlazersElrond_Hubbard_ 107 指标 18小时前

They said he ran a 4.4 forty when he was drafted by Kansas City lol what the fuck.

The fastest ever Lineman was Terron Armstead who ran a 4.71, and was also 300 pounds. Even if they messed up the hand-timer, worst case he'd be around a 4.55? Vernon Davis ran a 4.38, but was 255 pounds. Bonkers[译注1]

开拓者球迷:苍了个天,据说张伯伦刚进入堪萨斯大学的时候他跑40码(约合36.6米)只要4.4秒。橄榄球里最快完成40码测试的线锋是Terron Armstead,耗时4.71秒, 他的体重也有大约135公斤。

就算是那时候给张伯伦测速的人是手记(不是电记),测得不准,那张伯伦最次也有4.55秒的速度吧?Vernon Davis倒是跑出了4.38秒,但他只有115公斤啊!不可思议。

[译注1]: Terron Armstead效力于NFL新奥尔良圣徒队,司职进攻截锋。Vernon Davis现效力于华盛顿红皮队,司职近端锋。40码冲刺跑是橄榄球中用来评估一名球员速度和提速能力的常用测试。

[–]Lakersxanot192 189 指标 20小时前

4.4 in the fourty jesus

湖人球迷:我只想打出一串6。

[–][SAS] Dominique Wilkinsbloomingzonda 81 指标 18小时前

That is the same time that Adrian Peterson put up in the combine

马刺球迷:Adrian Peterson[译注2]在联合试训里的四十码成绩和张伯伦一样。

[译注2]:Adrian Peterson现效力于NFL亚利桑那红雀队,司职跑卫。

[–]LakersChyloRen 160 指标 19小时前

Sub 50 on the 400m in high school too. Dude can do anything

湖人球迷:张伯伦高中的时候用了不到50秒跑完400米。这老哥无所不能。

[–][GSW] Draymond GreenMacDerfus 122 指标 19小时前

He's like a stronger, bigger version of Bo Jackson.

勇士球迷:他就像高大强壮的升级版Bo Jackson[译注3]。

[译注3]:Bo Jackson是美国历史上唯一一位在NFL和MLB两大联盟都获得全明星球员称号,并进入名人堂的运动员。

[–]Sunszarvinny 65 指标 17小时前

7ft Bo. Jesus

太阳球迷:张伯伦就是2.13米的Bo神。

[–]WarriorsSevenElevenHells 53 指标 16小时前

7’2”. he’s taller than shaq

勇士球迷:纠正一下,是2.18米。他比奥尼尔还高。


[–]CavaliersKayFeldersAlt 865 指标 21小时前

Athleticism wise, it seems like he was a mix between Shaq and Giannis with Lebron durability.

骑士球迷:我觉得张伯伦的运动能力就像是奥尼尔和字母哥的合成物,还有老詹的耐操度。

[–][PHI] Markelle FultzJoelEmbeast 78 指标 21小时前

Except he was way stronger than Shaq.

太阳球迷:可是张大帅比鲨鱼还要强壮得多。

[–]Sureynot86 223 指标 20小时前

Idk about that, if he was stronger he wasn’t “way” stronger. It’s like also believing he slept with 20,000 women.

这么有把握吗?就算张伯伦比奥尼尔还壮,我也不觉得两人之间会有明显的差距。就像你们天天“张两万”地叫,难道他就真的和2万名女性发生过关系吗?

[–]76ersmemeganoob 193 指标 19小时前

Agreed, he definitely slept with at least 50,000 women

76人球迷:说得太对了,怎么能是2万名啊?应该有5万,TX。

[–]Warriorsbenpaco 91 指标 17小时前

I know how he "had no children" but I'd like to imagine he actually had thousands of children and a couple hundred years from now there'll be a 1 in 10 chance you have Wilt blood the same way there's a 1 in 10 chance someone in Asia is related to Genghis Khan

勇士球迷:我知道,官方的消息是张伯伦“没有生育”,但我宁愿相信他的子孙实际上成千上万。一代天骄成吉思汗,亚洲每十人中就有一人是他的后代。看今朝风流人物张伯伦,未来不过数百年,就能在美利坚复刻这样的神迹。

[–][LAL] Didier Ilunga-Mbengaberdengbituin 60 指标 16小时前

His descendant is actually in the league today.

湖人球迷:谁人言我大帅无后!

运动超人张伯伦各种运动都掌握美:奥尼尔、字母哥和LBJ的混合体 - 天天要闻

[–]KnicksTofuTofu 97 指标 19小时前

I absolutely believe the 20,000 women thing.

Single his whole life, unabashedly sexual, in a pre-AIDS world of free love, as the biggest celebrity in Los Angeles for a good chunk of it... That guy was running trains every single night.

尼克斯球迷:我信张大帅和两万名女性进行过技术交流。

张伯伦这一生,在一个无人知“艾”的自由世界里爱得过火,再加上有很长一段时间他都是洛杉矶最大牌的明星……老哥还不得夜夜开车夜夜笙歌啊。

[–]Claclink520 92 指标 18小时前

Come on. Do the math. If he had sex with a different woman every day for 50 years he would only be up to 18,250

得了得了,我来给你算笔账。如果张伯伦在五十年里每天都和一位不同的女性巫山云雨,总共下来也不过是18250个人。

[–]Grizzliesehopkey 132 指标 17小时前

But what if he had 3 every night

灰熊球迷:一夜三人,你重新算。


[–]NBAmx3552 199 指标 21小时前

A guy says he made 20 out of 25 free throws from half court, is that true?!

我听到有个人说张伯伦以25中20的命中率从中场罚球,这也行?!

[–]Cavaliersdantheman9758[S] 275 指标 21小时前

Tom Heinsohn, Celtics current announcer and a HOF player from Wilt's era who eventually became Celtics coach in the 70's. I can't say if it's true or not, but that's the man who's claiming he saw it happen

骑士球迷:你说的那个人是汤姆-海因索恩,凯尔特人现任解说员。他是绿军名宿和名人堂成员,并和张伯伦同场竞技过。海因索恩在70年代还担任了凯尔特人的主教练。我没法断言中场罚球是真是假,但说这话的人可是声称他亲眼目睹过这些。

[–]NBAmx3552 122 指标 21小时前

He averaged 50-60 %FT so it would be surprising but with Wilt I guess it's possible.

张伯伦生涯的平均罚球命中率也不过是50-60 %,所以这命中率是挺出乎意料的。不过只要是关于他老人家的事儿,我都觉得可以信。

[–]Cavaliersdantheman9758[S] 151 指标 21小时前

I'm sure some will contest this because it feels like an endless debate with many nuances, but I'm 99% sure from all testimony (coaches, Wilt himself, etc) Wilt's problems at the free throw line were mental first (and became physical IE bad form, secondary to that). His shooting touch itself was not the problem. He was a good fall away jump shooter, and as the footage of his hook shots and the testimony of his half court shots indicate, he could even hit ranged shots (though he never did these during games). So, to me, it's plausible he could sink the half court shots with frequency.

楼上的骑士球迷:我敢说有人要反对我接下来要所说的,因为大家对此都会各持己见而争个不休。但是从现有的证据(来自于球队教练们和张伯伦本人等等)来看,我确信张伯伦罚球不好首先是由心理问题引起的(其次才是投球手势这些身体上的原因)。他稀烂的罚球不应归罪于他的手感。张伯伦有着出色的后仰跳投。还有这段视频里他的超远勾手和其他人对他中场投篮的见证,都说明大帅甚至能远程发炮(虽然在比赛中他从不远投)。所以在我看来,张伯伦能在中场接连命中投篮是可信的。

[–]Cavaliersalibabaking 103 指标 20小时前

Kinda like lebron? The dude can make 26+ footers with ease but for some reason can't drain both free throws.

骑士球迷:就像老詹的情况一样?他能轻松地在三分线外一步命中跳投,也能莫名其妙两罚全丢。


[–]darhale 338 指标 20小时前

He played professional volleyball? That's not even fair.

I always did think that if the NBA's most athletic guys (like LeBron, Westbrook, etc) played volleyball, USA should be able to dominate in volleyball.

张伯伦还打了职业排球?那也太欺负人啦。

我一直都想,如果我们让NBA里运动力爆表的球员(比如老詹,比如威少)去参加排球队,美国队就是排坛一霸。

[–]Celticschirpzz 122 指标 20小时前

To be fair he played in a league he founded. In America had he wanted to really compete at the sport he would have played overseas where the good leagues are. Just the videos show show you that his form was really not great. IDK if that was standard when he got into it, but if you look at the really great hitters in the game past and present they look nothing like Wilt when he's hitting

Heres a video of great hits

绿军球迷:说实话,张伯伦是在自己创立的排球联赛里打球[译注4]。如果他真的想要一展身手大杀四方,那他应该去海外的高水平联赛。记录下张伯伦打排球的这些视频其实显示出他的姿势不太正确。我不确定他的动作是否在他参加比赛的时候可以算作标准,但如果你看看曾经和现在的优秀排球手,他们和张伯伦的击球动作是大相径庭。

视频:排球中的精彩扣杀>>

[译注4]:张伯伦是创立于1974年的International Volleyball Association的董事会成员,并在次年成为其总裁。由于张伯伦的存在,IVS的全明星赛才得到了电视转播,他也当选为全明星赛MVP。张伯伦只偶尔代表联赛中的Seattle Smashers队出战。而IVS在经历不过短短5年时间后,于1979年就解散了。

[–]Wizardslivefreeordont 219 指标 20小时前

He was a hall of fame volleyball player

奇才球迷:他不是也进入了排球的名人堂?

[–]Pelicansblinkme123 129 指标 18小时前

he's in the HoF in volleyball for his role as an ambassador for the sport, not because he was all that good at it.

鹈鹕球迷:大帅进入名人堂的原因是他在推广这项运动时所扮演的重要角色,而非他在排球领域真的强无敌。

[–]Sunsapawst8 46 指标 19小时前

Chase Budinger was a pretty accomplished volleyball player (national HS player of the year) before choosing to emphasize basketball over volleyball.

Now that his basketball career is over, he's a professional beach volleyball player. Both of his siblings are professional volleyball players also.

太阳球迷:在选择更多地投入篮球之前,蔡斯-巴丁格是个小有成就的排球运动员(全美年度最佳高中球员)。

现在他的篮球生涯是结束了,但他成为了一名职业的沙滩排球运动员。他的兄弟姐妹们也都投身职业排球赛事。

[–]catkirkgleason 52 指标 20小时前

Won the volleyball MVP too. At like 50

张伯伦在差不多50岁的时候还拿到了排球联赛的MVP。

[–]Pelicansblinkme123 70 指标 18小时前

the only "pro" volleyball he played was in basically a pro-am league he founded. He was MVP in an all-star game of that league, not of anything that matters in volleyball.

鹈鹕球迷:大帅唯一打过的“职业”排球就是在他自己创立的一个职业、业余选手混合联赛。他是在一场全明星赛上拿到的MVP,其实没什么含金量。


[–]DrunkenMasterII 19 指标 19小时前

I always wonder if all the best athletes in the world went to compete in one specific discipline how they would do. Like if Lebron learned to play hockey as a kid, how good could he be?

我一直很好奇如果让世界上最好的运动员们去参加另一项运动,他们的表现会怎样。比如说如果詹姆斯从小就学着打冰球,他也会很成功吗?

[–]Salami_On_Rye 45 指标 19小时前

I think a lot of basketball athletes would be at a disadvantage because of their size. Players like Westbrook or AI would excel at any sport, I imagine, but bigger guys like Wilt or LeBron or Shaq would be at a disadvantage in many sports given their size.

我想身材的原因会让许多篮球运动员在从事另一项运动项目时多有不便。我估计像威少和艾佛森这样的球员在任何体育项目里都会游刃有余,但大帅、老詹或者是奥尼尔这类魁梧高大的运动员,身型反而会限制他们的表现。

[–]Kraggon 55 指标 19小时前

There have been NFL scouts that said Lebron would have been the best tight end to ever play the game. Joe Rogan has said fighters are lucky there is so much money in basketball because he would beat everyones ass if he decided to fight instead and could have done anything he wanted athletically.

以前有过NFL 的球探称詹姆斯会成为橄榄球运动有史以来最出色的近端锋。Joe Rogan[译注5]曾经说过格斗运动员都应该庆幸篮球联赛里的油水够多,不然老詹如果选择转战综合格斗,凭借他的运动天赋他就能为所欲为,掌控全菊。

[译注5]:Joe Rogan是美国脱口秀喜剧演员,同时在其职业生涯前中期基本是固定的UFC现场评论员和现场采访员。 现在Rogan通常只在比较重大的赛事里出现。他是UFC这项赛事的元老级人物之一。

[–]PleaseBeQuietCunt 26 指标 19小时前

God super heavy weight division would be so fucked if a whole load of nba players decided to fight

乱了乱了,要是一大帮NBA球员转行打格斗那就全乱了。超重量级还不得打成一锅粥。

[–]TimberwolvesBannaHamHock 27 指标 18小时前

They wouldn't fight in super heavyweight division considering that doesn't exist in the UFC or Bellator and wouldn't need to since the Heavyweight cut off is 265 and any NBA player could easily cut to that save for like.. Shaq I guess? Some 7 footers maybe.

森林狼球迷:不会的,NBA的球员根本不会参加超重量级的格斗赛,因为不管UFC还是Bellator都不包含这个级别。另外他们也不需要,因为参加重量级比赛选手的体重上限是120公斤,大多数球员应该都能比较轻松地减重在这以下吧...也许除了奥尼尔?或者是其他一些的七尺大汉。


[–]Cavalierswouldstillsmash 237 指标 20小时前

The annoying thing about Wilt is you get the sense that people/himself are purposely trying to exaggerate his stories, which puts everything else into question. Like I KNOW this dude was a crazy once-in-a-lifetime athlete, but 50 inch vertical at 7'1? Come on. I wish they'd just stick to the truth since the truth is already very impressive.

骑士球迷:对于吹大帅神迹,我比较烦的一点就是你能觉察到不管是旁人还是他自己,都在有意地给大帅的功劳簿上添砖加瓦。这就给事实的真相又蒙上一层神秘的面纱。我明白,我了解,张大帅就是一个不世出的运动奇才。可是2.16米的身高配上1.26米的垂直弹跳也是真的?写神话的该歇歇了,毕竟单纯摆事实就足够吹大帅的了。

[–]Cavaliersdantheman9758[S] 152 指标 20小时前*

I try to dig to the bottom of every story, each has an origin. Usually it’s Wilt who exaggerates depending on the content and contex of the discussion. Usually his peers are aware many people won’t believe them. His peers don’t give me the impression that they exaggerate. Some fans do, but they aren’t the source they are often repeating 2nd and 3rd hand and I never include 2nd hand fan testimony in my videos only first hand accounts

楼主:每一个这样的传奇故事我都想刨根问底,溯其本源。通常来说,是张伯伦自己在特定环境和谈话内容里做了夸大。他的篮球同僚们通常清楚很多人都不会相信这些故事的,他们应该没有夸大其实。但是有些球迷会信以为真,甚至也添油加醋地补两句。然而球迷的话就算一传十十传百也不能被用作消息源,我也不会把他们的话作为制作视频的证据。我只相信第一手消息。

[–]Cavalierswouldstillsmash 67 指标 20小时前

Oh you're the guy behind the Wilt Chamberlain Archives? Excellent work! Can't believe how much you've uncovered about Wilt. Do you know anything about the accounts of his strength? I mean you have people like Arnold Schwarzenegger praising his strength, so there has to be truth to it. However, there's also quotes like the one below floating around which make you want to doubt everything.

骑士球迷:嘿老哥你就是《威尔特-张伯伦档案》的幕后制作人?活儿干得漂亮!真不敢相信你们能发掘出这么多关于张伯伦的趣事。你知道关于大帅神力过人的一些信息吗?毕竟像阿诺-施瓦辛格这些人都对他的力量赞不绝口,那多少是有点实锤的吧。不过也有像层主这样的说法,又让我感觉一切都不是那么可靠。

"On the trip to Russia with the Harlem Globetrotters, we were in Lenin Stadium, and they assigned a dressing room to the team. The players were getting dressed for one of their games. They were in rather close quarters. Remember, these were young kids-Wilt was 23. The others were his age. They were like kittens. You bump me, i'll bump you back. And before you know it, two of the guys set on Wilt. They started playfully pushing and shoving him. And finally one of his teammates hit Wilt a little too hard. He took these two guys, twisted each of their shirts, and lifted both of them off the ground. Each of these guys weighed over 200 pounds. It looked like he had two little crackers in his hands. I thought he was going to hit their heads together. It was an amazing demonstration of strength"[译注6]

“当时我们是在俄罗斯,哈林篮球队巡回赛的途中一站。比赛在列宁体育馆进行,场馆的工作人员给球队分配了一间更衣室。有一场比赛前大家都在更衣室里为出场做着准备,彼此距离都挺近。别忘了这些球员都是年轻人,张伯伦也不过23岁。他们就像猫一样彼此来回折腾。几乎没人注意,其中有两个人打算去和张伯伦闹一闹。开始是开玩笑的推搡,到后面,其中一人没控制好就重重地给了他一下。各位,那张伯伦轻舒猿臂,款扭狼腰,揪住二人衣领,只轻轻一提,就将两人拿到半空。看官,这两名大汉各重两百斤,张伯伦提于手上如提幼童,竟不费力。张伯伦似要以这二人项上人头互击,然则作罢。众人皆叹,大帅真乃神人也。”

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