Last year, Deng Jie returned to the screen after eleven years. The new drama "My Assistant Sixty" collaborated with Wang Ziwen and Bai Jingting was completed at the end of the year. In the play, she played a housewife who was only 60 years old and just entered the workplace.

In 2020, a movie about the hard work of Sichuan opera actors, " Singing ", bringing Deng Jie , who is on the edge of the entertainment industry back to the audience's attention. When she appeared as a producer, everyone realized that "Deng Jie hasn't acted for a long time." Last year, Deng Jie returned to the screen after eleven years. The new drama " My Assistant Sixty-year-old " collaborated with Wang Ziwen and Bai Jingting was completed at the end of the year. In the drama, she played a housewife who was only 60 years old and just entered the workplace.

Deng Jie does not have too much desire to be "see" outside of creation. Photo provided by the interviewee

. According to the saying, Deng Jie's character that left the deepest impression on the audience is the Wang Xifeng in the 1987 version of "Dream of Red Mansions" that was popular 35 years ago. This smart, beautiful and bold " Feng Lazi " is undoubtedly one of the most outstanding characters in the play and has also become synonymous with his artistic career. After acting for many years, Deng Jie has experienced many roles in life. She is sure that she has a passion for acting and has the advantage of being good at acting in front of the camera.

Deng Jie has more than 160,000 social media fans, not updated daily, and the content posted and forwarded is related to her creation and family. The last update was introduced to her role in "My Assistant is Sixty". Deng Jie does not have too much desire to be seen outside of creation. If it weren’t for the publicity period, she would rather hide it all the time, accompany her children and run her family.

In recent years, she has become more and more aware that life is nothing more than a multiple-choice question, whether to do it or not. If you want to do things, you must think deeply about what attitude to do. She would also ridicule herself as if she was old, but she would not lose her desire for good works at all. She said that she was able to return to her family calmly because she was not materialistic. She had a "workaholic" husband who was working hard to create without stopping, so she would not have to make a living by filming. Therefore, without a suitable drama, she would rather not act, and act what she wants. This is the way forward that Deng Jie chose for herself - she devotes herself to her roles she wants to work hard, and if she doesn't meet, she will return to her family to take care of her husband and children. She enjoys it at any stage.

A. We saw

on the camera, and Wang Xifeng was not optimistic about it. She did not feel sorry for the opposition. No one knew better than Deng Jie. Her advantage was in front of the camera. During the filming of

87 version of "Dream of Red Mansions", Deng Jie's first scene was over, and director Wang Fulin felt relieved. He said, "Okay, Fengjie is standing up." This sentence is like a reassurance, which is too important for Deng Jie who is "crazy" to prepare for Wang Xifeng. After more than 30 years, when it comes to this sentence and such scenes from that year, Deng Jie still sighed a lot: "Before this scene, the director was very worried. I was also in a very depressed state and was scolded by the director almost every day. I remember very clearly that Zhou Rui's family (played by Sun Caihong) and Liu Laolao (played by Sha Yuhua ) were sitting there. I took a play to audition. Facing two particularly experienced and well-known actors, I spoke Sichuan Mandarin and showed no advantage. Director Wang frowned and said, 'What is this?'." Before the filming of the

87 version of "Dream of Red Mansions", no one was optimistic that Deng Jie could play the role of Wang Xifeng well, including the director, her classmates, and herself.

At that time, almost no one thought that Deng Jie could take over the role of Wang Xifeng. None of her mother, teachers and classmates in the Sichuan Opera Theater were optimistic that she could control Wang Xifeng, including herself. In the spring of 1984, Deng Jie took the green train to Beijing to participate in the interview with the crew of the TV series "Dream of Red Mansions". production director asked everywhere in the reception hall "Who is Deng Jie?" She looked tired and covered in dust, and she looked disappointed. "At that time, I felt like a drop in the ocean. Because I had dark skin, short and average appearance, those standing next to me were all white, graceful, and good-looking. This made me feel like I had no presence. If I threw it into the crowd, you couldn't find it.How dare you talk about your appearance with others? "

Deng Jie laughed at herself as a "miserable" situation at the beginning: When she met Wang Fulin, the other party also thought that she was not tied to the "beautiful Wang Xifeng", but "I don't care about him. Since he came, let her receive training first, and act whatever she could." The doubts and opposition around her, and the disdainful attitude of others towards her never shakes Deng Jie's determination. From the beginning, she thought she could play Wang Xifeng well. Even if she had no sense of existence in the crew, she was sure that she was glorious in front of the camera. "Actors need to be able to speak and dare to perform. I am not able to speak normally, but if this occasion is an occasion where I can perform and speak, when I have the right to speak, I will definitely perform well. "The occasion Deng Jie mentioned is that it is in front of the camera, which can usually be submerged in the public, but when it comes to the camera, it must be the most dazzling. "In theory, I should be 'pressure', but I don't care at all, and I don't care about those unsightly voices. Anyway, this character is mine, so what? See you on the camera! "

B. Eternal friendship

The lines of "Dream of Red Mansions" come to your mouth, and miss Chen Xiaoxu

The sentence "Seeing on the camera" shows Deng Jie's "spicy energy" as a Sichuan girl . She spent all her thoughts on Wang Xifeng, without any uneasiness, and only supported by will. What can be done must be done, and what cannot be done must be done to learn and understand. She did not dare to be slackened in a single three and a half years. You asked her if she had lived as Wang Xifeng-"Only wearing makeup is Wang Xifeng, I am in life Lin Daiyu , and I am worried about the performance. First of all, I am not a native Beijinger. I have to spend a lot of time practicing authentic Beijing-style lines; in addition, I filmed four classics, and there are stacks of tall and thick scripts on the table every day. I have to memorize the lines upside down. Until today, I can still open my mouth and come. "In those years, Deng Jie never went anywhere, she had never even been to the barber shop once, and she never dressed up in her daily life. "I may be the most native of the crew, and my hair and style were just plain white noodles, without any level, because I never put any thoughts on these things. "

After three and a half years of hard work, Deng Jie's performance captured the hearts of everyone in the crew and was recognized by the audience across the country. She played Feng Lazi, who was "the pink face was full of spring power but did not show off" in the original work, and the outside world even commented that "there is no more Wang Xifeng after Deng Jie".

Deng Jie was worried that she would not play Wang Xifeng well, but she did not expect that this would become a representative role in her acting career. The picture comes from her Weibo

, but this kind of reputation was something Deng Jie never thought of, "The days when the filming was about to finish was very cold, I didn't have much feeling anymore. I didn't have time to think about what evaluation this drama could get, and I even worried that it would be criticized for not acting well. I remember that at that time, Ouyang Fenqiang said there, "Our play should win awards." Unexpectedly, it really won the recognition of the audience later. Fortunately, no one played Wang Xifeng before me, so I no longer had the shackles of preconceived ideas. Compared to me, Ouyang Fenqiang and Chen Xiaoxu have heavier pressure and psychological burden. "After looking back over the past 30 years, Deng Jie always smiled when talking about this role that she had been with her whole life, missing her colleagues in the crew who filmed together back then.

In this era of audiences enjoying the "memory killing", the classic crews are becoming more and more popular. Over the past few decades, some have left, some have changed careers, and some are old. Deng Jie said that those days were not easy, but they also forged an eternal friendship in everyone's hearts: "For example, I am very clear about the departure of Xiaoxu . We didn't have much contact during the filming process because Wang Xifeng and Lin Daiyu didn't have many rival scenes. But she is a simple and peaceful girl. For a while, we always participated in the show together. She followed me and she went there too. She refused to agree if I didn't go there, and thus became a very close friend. I was very sad and reluctant to accept her leaving us."

C. I only play

dramas that I want to act, but I don't want to make things difficult for exposure.

. Deng Jie, who was known for her 1987 version of "Dream of Red Mansions" at the age of 30, did not participate in many works in the following years. When asked why she didn't strike while the iron was hot, she said that it was not that there was no script to find her, but that there were no characters that really moved her: "Maybe the starting point was too high when I first acted, and the scripts I found were determined for you. The characters must be like Wang Xifeng, but the plot of the whole drama is much worse than "Dream of Red Mansions", which is incomparable. Then I thought to myself, why do you want to play her? I would rather not act because I can't accept it in my heart. "Someone once asked her that she should try every means to climb to the top of her character after creating a classic character, so she is not afraid of anyone guessing, "Is no one asking Deng Jie to act? Or is it too difficult for Wang Xifeng to surpass? "I am not very similar to others. I never care about these comments. The acting is because I really like this role, just like the " Prime Minister Liu Luoguo " placed in front of me seven years later. When I read the script, I felt that this play must be performed because it was so exciting and great. "Deng Jie said.

In the TV series "Prime Minister Liu Luoguo" starring Li Baotian , Deng Jie plays Mrs. Liu.

In addition to Wang Xifeng, Deng Jie also hopes to try some different roles, but the TV series market in that era is relatively narrow. Unlike now, there are endless dramas and countless projects. She is a good show, but she values ​​whether it suits her more. So she chose the survival rules of the entertainment industry that will go with the flow , it’s not necessary to fight for something, but to express the desire for artistic creation in a limited time.

Of course, during this period, she also met many good roles, including Mrs. Liu in "Prime Minister Liu Luoguo" and Yifei in the TV series " Kangxi's private visit to ", each of which is enough to be recorded in the history of TV series. "Founds, I also filmed some dramas, and later I could play the roles of my mother-in-law and mother. To be honest, I feel that my image doesn’t seem to be suitable for me. It’s not that I don’t want to play an old role, but it’s really not suitable. I need to have a good script and a good role. I want to play it. If I can’t meet it, I just go home to take care of my children. I still think that family should be the priority. "Deng Jie laughed and said that this industry is indeed full of temptation. The TV series market was particularly hot in the early years. There were really many people looking for her with scripts, "But I don't want to stay on the set for the sake of exposure, which is so uncomfortable. ”

D. Performance couple

He is more serious than me, I believe in the natural sense of nature

When talking about Deng Jie, the topic can never escape her husband Zhang Guoli .

In 2019, Deng Jie rarely appeared in the variety show "Happiness Trio". Among the three celebrity couples, she and Zhang Guoli It is the most interesting, dull and sweet, unique with the warmth and fireworks between traditional Chinese couples. Occasionally, the two will "cross each other" because of some living habits, but they always dote and care for each other enough. After the show was broadcast, many articles were attracted by the topics of "Deng Jie teaches you to keep your love fresh" and "Deng Jie teaches you how to fall in love". In fact, Deng Jie has been preparing for the last show for a long time, "If I can play the role of my true nature, I will not pretend, but have too many restrictions, so I can agree. We are indeed busy every day, and this show just allows us to spend a long time together. We have not had such days for many years. So, I solicited the child's opinions and agreed with Zhang Guoli before going there that he must act and live his life in his true nature. If he has too strong desire to perform and wants to pretend, I will definitely expose it in person and will not save him face (laugh). ”

In 2019, Deng Jie and Zhang Guoli participated in the variety show "Happy Trio". The picture comes from his Weibo

Most couples in the entertainment industry have become friends through dramas, and Deng Jie and Zhang Guoli are no exception. Since their first collaboration in the TV series "The Password Not Leaked" in 1984, they have collaborated on many works, "The Stubborn Water", "Kangxi's Private Visit", " Common Emperor "... Deng Jie joked, "We started working together very early, and finally had a 'distance and parting' (laughs)."

" Really, after working together, I felt more and more that it was better not to cooperate. I always quarrel on the set. What's the point? Especially after he (Zhang Guoli) became a director, he particularly refused to recognize his relatives. I began to think that directors would be more tolerant of actresses and should be more tolerant of their wives. As a result, I stumbled when I was talking about the lines. He was far away, shouting with the loudspeaker, which was too shameful for me. I was not convinced, saying, "What do you mean? Just a stutter. I am a human, not a repeater." Then I threw the script and left (laugh). "

" You are all actors, will you compare with each other who can perform well? "The reporter asked, and Deng Jie thought for a while: "Actually, our styles are completely different. He is more serious about the characters and scripts than me. He has a basic drama and can't be wrong with a single word of the line. I am a Sichuan opera actor and my Mandarin may not be so authentic, so every time I have similar questions, he accuses me of my acting in a game state. But to be honest, I can be sure that I can easily see some characters. For example, Mrs. Liu, I think I can control my true nature, but he thinks you are not serious, but I insist on a natural sense of nature. "However, Deng Jie also reflected on her later, and she relied more on her instinct in her performance: "I think acting still requires talent. Although I have less production now, I believe that as long as I appear in front of the camera and stand on the stage, I can enter the character's heart, and the character will naturally possess me. I always think that performances are flowing in my blood and I know how to do it. "

For performance, Deng Jie prefers the natural feeling. Photo provided by the interviewee

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Deng Jie: Praise never makes me feel that there is anything different

Beijing News : Over the years, you have been working for this industry in your own way, such as being the producer of the movie "Singing Alive" and doing a lot of things for the promotion of Sichuan Opera.

Deng Jie: Sichuan Opera is flowing in my blood. I am a Sichuan Opera actor, and their stories are worth it. Let people know. At the beginning, everyone always said that this movie could not recover the cost, the theme was relatively niche, no one paid attention to it, and even Zhang Guoli was not very supportive, for fear that I could not hold these young creators. But this is something I like and should do. I am afraid that I will ruin artistic creation, so I have to do it seriously without thinking about everything.

Deng Jie serves as the producer of the movie "Singing Alive".

Beijing News: Zhang Guoli said that you live as you want at every stage. Do you agree with this? ?

Deng Jie: actually has regrets at every stage, but the results are pretty good every time. For example, "Singing Alive", I have a mentality of "If you can shoot it, you will win", I don't have a film schedule, it's very niche, it doesn't matter, it's fine. It's enough to do it. Later, we went to the Cannes Film Festival and the Shanghai Film Festival, and won two major awards. I was so surprised that I felt very good.

Beijing News: Is your mentality of not forcing everything suitable for the entertainment industry?

Deng Jie: is actually not suitable. The entertainment industry is indeed a place full of temptation, but just like in "Dream of Red Mansions", the golden hairpin fell into the well, and it is yours. Sometimes it must be there, and it is always forced to do it in my destiny. For example, later, many people advised me to act. In the past, there was a movie that insisted that I play the leading female lead, but I would not act no matter what, because it was not suitable for me. It was not that I was stubborn, but that I felt uncomfortable when I played it. I didn't want to play the role of others, but to play the role I wanted.

Beijing News: This calmness should be difficult to maintain, after all, you have accepted a lot of praise?

Deng Jie: is, but praise never makes me feel that there is anything different. I can look at myself outside the evaluation. For example, many people commented on my role as "Dream of Red Mansions" and "Prime Minister Liu Luoguo", and they would use the words "glorious". At first, I thought this evaluation could not be used on everyone, and I also doubted that it was because everyone was loving it, and would think, "Do I really have such characteristics?" But when I turned around, I was 40 years old when I was acting in "Prime Minister Liu Luoguo", and the maid next to me was only 16 years old. At that time, I wondered "What does this mean", but I would silently tell myself, "Then see you in front of the camera." I would think I have an advantage in front of the camera, which is also where I feel confident. Even now, I am not afraid of anyone younger than me and taller than me when acting (laugh).

Beijing News: If you grasp that confidence, you won’t be afraid of getting older?

Deng Jie: This (growing old) is a fact, what should I do? What's the use of being afraid of? I think it's better not to be afraid and face it.

Beijing News: But the outside world will discuss, such as comparing your photos when you were young with the present. If you see false reports, you should be very angry with your personality?

Deng Jie: I seem to automatically block these things because it has nothing to do with me. I will also see false reports, and it will be fine if I get angry for a while (laughs).

Beijing News: I remember there is a detail in the variety show "Happiness Trio". Zhang Guoli uses CD to play music, and you use Bluetooth speaker . Do you seem to be more likely to accept new things?

Deng Jie: is, I am quite up-to-date with the times in this regard, because I have children around me, and I must master trendy things as soon as possible and maintain a permanent mentality so that I will not derail and bring convenience to my family.

Beijing News: Have you changed since acting?

Deng Jie: I haven’t , so I’m becoming more and more calm. I never think I’m going to be in this circle, nor do I want to know what the future will be like, and I will always live in the present.

Deng Jie said that there will be regrets and dissatisfactions in every stage of life, but these are not bad things. Photo provided by the interviewee

Beijing News: So does the sentence "Every stage shows a satisfactory self" really exist? Maybe because you have what others want to have?

Deng Jie: There are definitely things that are not satisfied with , but these are not bad things to me, but experience. I also had the stage of "nothing" and had many setbacks, such as the five years of Sichuan Opera School and the five years of Sichuan Opera Theater. I lived in those ten years and was extremely depressed and confused. I was very depressed when I couldn't encounter opportunities. It was useless to cry, and there was not even anyone who could cry. But "I was born to be useful", I just thought of this sentence. I always feel that I will definitely not waste my whole life. Life is inspirational after all. As for the specificity, I have no specific goals or real plans, so I move forward calmly.

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