This year, the SUPERSPORT car series that was restarted by Ducati , lacks the extremely forward-looking Knight triangle of the SUPERBIKE car series, and has more affinity for long-term riding. Honda's VFR series, which has a history of more than 30 years, has also developed into a general-purpose sports car that has been ridden for a long time. One is a classic restart and the other has a rich history. These are two from Italy and Japan. Who is the model that best shows its value?
Whether it is the Ducati SUPERSPORT S or the Honda VFR800F, compared with the top imitation competitions of its own brands, they all have less hard-core styles that pursue the track's limits, and more let the Cavaliers experience the car's sense of the road scenery more.
Although motorcycles are a machine that can operate normally on rainy days, if you have to shoot in this weather, you may be worried that the photographer who is wet with money tools will kill the editor first. For the sake of his own safety, he decided to go to the middle with relatively stable weather for testing and shooting. God seemed to know our plan and helped us. Although it was raining the day before the shooting, we saw the blue sky when we got up on the day of the shooting, which really made us put aside the big stone in our hearts. Whether it is the Ducati SUPERSPORT S or the Honda VFR800F, compared with the top imitation competitions of its own brands, they all have less hard-core styles that pursue the track's extreme limits, and more let the cavaliers feel the car's nature more. Therefore, Sun Moon Lake, which is one of the eight scenic spots in Taiwan, has become the best place to test and shoot these two cars. Speaking of the beautiful scenery in the middle, Sun Moon Lake is definitely one or two in most people's minds, because the geographical environment of Sun Moon Lake, as the sun rises and sets, and the contrast between light and shadow and time changes, can all show different styles and beautify it. The Sun Moon Lake Ringtan Road is not long, but due to the terrain, the ride rhythm of the Tai 21 Line A on the east side and the Tai 21 Line on the west side and the mountain roads on the mountain side are different. It is a riding experience that can enjoy the V2 and V4 engines and different designs.
VFR800F is paired with today's mainstream LED headlights, which have good lighting effects.
In contrast, SUPERSPORT S is still a traditional light bulb in the lamps, but uses LED daytime running light design. When the headlights are not turned on during the day, LED daytime running lights outline the design elements of the PANIGALE model.
: In terms of Taiwan 21 A line, it can actually be divided into two road rhythms. Although there are many bends before Idasau, the curvature of the curve and the left many straight lines between the curves, which is not urgent overall. After passing Idasau, the curvature of the curve begins to increase, the interval between curves becomes shorter, and the small curves are continuous. It is a section that shows the agility of the locomotive. On the 21-A line south of Idasau, Ducati SUPERSPORT S, which uses a 90-degree angle water-cooled V-twin engine (or L-twin cylinder), plays the tricky control characteristics of the V2 model. Due to the entire engine placement angle and the concept of Ducati using the engine as the frame, the center of gravity of the entire vehicle is concentrated directly below the fuel tank. The Ducati SUPERSPORT S is the top version, paired with the OHLINS suspension system. With the matching of the suspension and the center of gravity of the car, the Ducati SUPERSPORT S steering is quite direct, almost a matter of changing the mind and moving the car body. Also because the center of gravity is concentrated below the center, it is easier to change the steering when the S-bend is turned, without applying too much force to the faucet. Using a 90-degree angle, the VFR800F with a water-cooled V-4-cylinder engine has a slightly forward-looking center of gravity than the Ducati SUPERSPORTS, but it is still a little more centered than the common side-by-side four-cylinder sports car, between the side-by-side four-cylinder model and the Ducati SUPERSPORT S. When steering, the VFR800F will feel that the steering is heavier, but as long as the front end starts to react, the body will follow the trend and move into the corners. The VFR800F needs more exercise to control the lightness of the SUPERSPORT S. On continuous detours like Taiwan 21 Line A, if the VFR800F wants to maintain a relatively high rhythm, it needs to apply more force to the handle to quickly flip the body.
It was still raining until yesterday in Sun Moon Lake. I almost thought I couldn’t test the drive today. Fortunately, the weather was beautiful. Today, I came to Sun Moon Lake to test drive to Sun Moon Lake. It was really a good day. Such a sky and pool water were the background, which was super perfect!
But as mentioned before, until the day before the shooting, there was still rainy weather in Sun Moon Lake. Therefore, on the 21-A line that morning, the road was still half dry and half wet and with lots of fallen leaves, especially on both sides of the road. As a passionate knight, you will definitely want to avoid it. The OHLINS equipped with Ducati SUPERSPORT S is obviously adjusted to sport. Although it will not be hard, it also reduces the confidence in tires and road grounding when facing road surfaces with low friction coefficient.
In this section of the road, in addition to fully feeling the dynamic differences in the body brought by the two engine models, the continuous mid- and low-speed corners also allow us to deeply understand the differences in the output of the two engines.
VFR800F riding is more at ease than SUPERSPORT S under B-level road conditions. Due to the center of gravity configuration of SUPERSPORT S, the front end load is not that high. With the hard damping suspension setting, facing the B-level road conditions with slippery and dirty road conditions, it makes it difficult to have confidence in the front end. The vehicle I usually ride is a four-cylinder imitation race with clear feedback from the front end, so you can only be conservative first and safety first when riding. Fortunately, the proportion of such road conditions is not high. Once the road conditions are relatively stable, you can enjoy the tricky steering characteristics of SUPERSPORT S in the corners.
SUPERSPORT S's V2 engine has a center of gravity almost directly below the Knight, and the whole car has a sense of flexibility as it pleases. Honda, which has always been famous for its easy control, also has a high level of affinity. The suspension damping of the VFR800F uses Honda-developed HMAS (Honda MULTI-ACTION SYSTEM) to reduce the piston diameter, reduce the amount of damping oil and maintain a high flow rate, to improve damping characteristics while providing a wider range of damping adjustments. When riding, you can feel that the suspension of the VFR800F has a Honda-style soft feeling, and compared with the suspension of the SUPERSPORT S, it has a softer tone. The initial movement of the suspension is quite rapid, which also allows the VFR800F to provide a relatively high tire grounding feeling in the poorer section of the middle section of this 21-A line. Compared with the two, on mountain roads with poor road conditions, the VFR800F is almost more immediately available than the SUPERSPORT S, showing the inherent ease of use of Honda models. The V4 engine setting of
VFR makes the entire vehicle slightly tilt towards the front end, and you will feel that the front of the vehicle is heavier when riding.
In this section of the road, in addition to fully feeling the dynamic differences in the body brought by the two engine models, the continuous mid- and low-speed corners also allow us to deeply understand the differences in the output of the two engines. Ducati SUPERSPORT S's 937c.c. TESTASTREA 11° engine can output nearly 80% of torque at 3000rpm, making it a powerful engine. Although it felt that Ducati deliberately corrected the throttle reaction below 4,000rpm to be relatively smooth, it still did not reduce its full torque output. If it was maintained at 5,000rpm, the entire car was in a ready state where it could eject out of corners at any time. When we use SPORTh mode to get the most direct engine reaction, try an active riding method, the straight line between bends, and when the accelerator turns, accompanied by the thick roar of the V2 engine, the next corner is approaching the eyes instantly. At this time, we need to start collecting oil and slowing down to prepare for the corner. The whole rhythm is strong and direct, which makes people excited by adrenaline.
SUPERSPORT S originally uses OHLINS suspension. When the factory settings are not specially adjusted, it is already a very sporty setting, and it can show excellent feedback and support on flat roads.
uses OHLINS suspension rear shock absorption.
corresponds to the Ducati SUPERSPORT S, which can be called a rapid acceleration, and the Honda VFR800F seems much smoother. The V4 HYPER-VTEC engine used by Honda VFR800F will close one of the inlet and exhaust valves of each cylinder in the low speed domain, becoming a two-valve valve design for each cylinder, thereby reducing the inlet volume of the low speed and achieving the optimal air-fuel ratio. For a high-speed engine, HYPER-VTEC design also optimizes the power of low-speed, in other words, has better low-speed torque output.But in the end, it is still a V-shaped four-cylinder engine. Even with the help of HYPER-VTEC, it is still not as explosive as the V2 engine's momentum. The VFR800F shows a relatively smooth acceleration between continuous and dense curves. Even if the speed is maintained above 6500rpm and the HYPER-VTEC is turned on, compared with the acceleration force of the Ducati SUPERSPORT S, the VFR800F's out-turn acceleration still seems more gentle and sends you out of the curve without slowing down.
VFR uses HMAS damping system, which gives people a soft feeling. The initial movement of the suspension is quite fast, but under heavy braking, it will not bottom out. It is a setting suitable for a variety of road conditions.
At the same time, in order to consider travel dual loads and install side boxes, the VFR's rear suspension adopts an oil pressure preload design, which can be quickly picked with bare hands.
Unlike SUPERSPORT S, the VFR800F is equipped with a vertical front fork.
As the speed climbed, the engine sound of the VFR800F changed from thick to high-pitched after turning on HYPERVTEC, and then further thundershot, accompanied by pleasant heavenly sounds. In addition to the physical feeling, there is more auditory feast, which makes people feel excited.
With the continuous downhill and hairpin bends, we quickly finished the Taiwan 21 line A, and turned right to the Taiwan 21 line to head north along the Moon Lake in Sun Moon Lake. Since returning to the main line of Taiwan 21, before arriving at the "Shuishebayan Dike Park" which is a famous photo-taking attraction, the width of the road has become a wide mountain road with two one-way routes and four routes in total. Of course, on this section of the road, the driving rhythm is much faster than that of the Taiwan 21 Line A, allowing us to understand the movement characteristics of these two cars on highway mountain roads.
Although the Ducati SUPERSPORT S is a V2 engine, with the more exhaust volume of VFR800F 155c.c., the maximum horsepower is 7hp more than the 103hp of the VFR800, reaching a 110hp horsepower output. On the highway section on the Taiwan 21 line, the overall acceleration is direct and bright when the SUPERSPORT S throttle turns. The VFR800F V4 engine, which had previously been smooth, was like lifting the seal on such a road section. It can boldly increase the speed and enjoy the entire engine being charged up when the four-cylinder car is pulled. As the speed climbed, the engine sound of the VFR800F changed from thick to high-pitched after turning on the HYPER-VTEC, and then further thundershot. Accompanied by the pleasant sound of nature, in addition to the physical sense, there is more auditory feast, which makes people feel excited.
Shuishebayandi Park.
If you want to compare carefully, I believe that even in such a high-speed section, although the SUPERSPORT S lacks the high-turn extension of V4, it has a larger horsepower and lighter weight, and is still full of advantages and better. However, for the high-speed long curves on the Taiwan 21 line and the slightly jumping pavement quality, the flexible SUPERSPORT S seems not stable enough. In contrast, the suspension tone of the VFR800F not only gives you greater confidence in the front end when entering the corner at high speed, after entering the steering process, the front and rear wheels seem to fall into the ground, making people more daring to start oil early and accelerate through the curve. The stability of the high-speed curves and the high-pitched sound of V4, the sensory experience brought by the VFR800F makes people's mouths rise.
Riding VFR800F on this beautiful and beautiful holiday, is a rare enjoyment. After passing Xiangshan Visitor Center, a short section of the road north is the place where the car enthusiasts must stop taking photos - Shuishebayandi Park. Since you are here to take photos at Sun Moon Lake, you naturally cannot miss this point. From Shuishebayandi Park to Idashao, the largest Shuishe area around Sun Moon Lake includes Taiwan 21 and Taiwan 21 Line A, but the overall curve rhythm is similar and the road quality is also good. Among them, the difference in road conditions is that the slope of Taiwan 21 is small and the road surface is gentle, while the A-line of Taiwan 21 has more ups and downs, but overall, for SUPERSPORT S or VFR800F, no! Perhaps it should be said that for most motorcycles, it is a section of road that is very comfortable to ride. This section of the road actually makes us feel the difference in riding characteristics between SUPERSPORT S and VFR800F. When the road conditions are good, the original OHLINS suspension setting of SUPERSPORT S can perform the performance it deserves. SUPERSPORT S can flexibly cut into the corner, and even have the strength to adjust the route in the corner. More importantly, the explosive power of the corner allows SUPERSPORT S to be prepared for the next corner in an instant.However, for long curves with large curvature, you will feel a little unstable to maintain the inclination angle and throttle opening for a long time. It is a riding method that requires maintaining the power of the rear wheel and maintaining tracking. The V4 engine setting of
VFR makes the entire vehicle's center of gravity slightly tilt towards the front end, and you will feel that the front of the vehicle is heavier when riding. The V2 engine of SUPERSPORT S is almost directly below the Knight, and the whole vehicle has a sense of flexibility as you like. No matter how busy your days are, you have to drive with your friends.
and VFR800F can be kept above 6500rpm in this area, making the power above the explosion belt. Compared with the road conditions at the southern end of the Taiwan 21 Line A, you can enjoy the sweet spot of the V4 engine more. With the VFR800F, as long as the front of the car is pointed in the corner, the rear wheels will follow the control feeling. In addition, the speed is maintained above 7000rpm, you can enjoy the most sporty side of the VFR800F. In addition to the long bends, you can draw beautiful driving lines steadily, even in the S bend with a higher speed range, you can still keep up with the rhythm of the mountain road by pushing the handle. Fortunately, there are not many S-bends on this section of the road, otherwise it would take more attention to steering the VFR800F that is more deliberately flipping through the dense S-bends, which would consume more energy from the Knight.
In addition to the passionate and bloody detour, we came to the water and sheba dam with a vast sea and sky. We couldn't help but stop the car and immerse ourselves in this beautiful scenery. However, the rear cylinder in front of the SUPERSPORT S, even on a comfortable autumn night, will feel the enthusiasm of Italy in a short while after the vehicle stops. In addition to the control and power characteristics mentioned above, I also felt the part of "walking and walking" during the shooting and the day of picking up the car, and from the pickup point to travel through the entire Taipei city to return to the editorial department. Before riding two cars, from the point of view that the SUPERSPORT S is smaller than the VFR800F No. 1 in terms of appearance and weight, it is intuitive that the ride in the city will be better than the VFR800F model, but in fact it is not. Although the SUPERSPORT S is small and flexible, its wheelbase is slightly longer than that of the VFR800F. Just the difference between the shuttle and the steering of the lane at peak times is not big. The tight body shape of
SUPERSPORT S makes people think that they are riding a 400c.c. class model. As soon as you step onto VFR, you will feel the setting of the great power, as if a person can be covered by a fairing.
The two cars can be described as "literary and martial arts".
However, the rear cylinder in front of the SUPERSPORT S, even on a comfortable autumn night, as long as the vehicle stops, you will feel the enthusiasm of Italy in a short while. From a physical perspective, even if the vehicle keeps moving, the temperature changes can be clearly felt on the inner side of the thighs and the legs are heated. Judging from the subtropical climate of Taiwan and the urban heat island effect, if you want to use SUPERSPORT S to wander in the city, you must make sufficient psychological preparations. In contrast, the engine heat emitted by the VFR800F is just a touch of warmth when it comes to the continuous stop and stop in the city. In addition to the fact that this generation of VFR800F has changed the water-cooled discharge from the left and right sides to the front end of the engine to reduce the hot air blowing to the legs, the VFR800F also has a frame and shell plate to separate the frame between the engine and the Knight, further reducing direct heat invasion. In addition, Ducati's twin-cylinder engine has an extremely low speed of about 3,000rpm, and its power reaction is significantly rougher than that of Japanese cars. Even if the SUPERSPORT S is paired with a sliding distance, it is inevitable that when moving forward at 2 or 30km/h in the city, it is necessary to use a half-clutch to exchange for smooth dynamics. On the contrary, the VFR800F can easily walk in the city by relying solely on the throttle control.
In fact, from the first impression of getting on the car, we can feel the differences in car manufacturing concepts between these two models with similar positionings. Riding on the SUPERSPORT S, from the first perspective of the knight, the tight and narrow body design, LCD instrument, and low front of the car, in addition to the slightly higher handles that bring a relatively relaxed riding posture, the first impression that comes to my heart is passionate and fighting. These can be seen from the 3-segment ABS, 8-segment TCS and DQS entry and exit quick-row rankings standard on SUPERSPORT S.Although Ducati positioned the SUPERSPORT S as a "sports car that can be ridden every day", he still hopes that it will have the performance of imitation races on the mountain road. Indeed, with the support of perfect electronic control assistance, OHLINS and DQS, SUPERSPORT S is really fast on the mountain road, but the generality and comfort of daily riding seem to be just added compared to the sporty performance.
SUPERSPORT S is paired with a fast-row and small instrument, full of sporty atmosphere.
SUPERSPORT S is paired with a small instrument. The 12V charging stand complements the practicality of the SUPERSPORT S.
stepped onto the VFR800F, with comfortable seat cushions, large-area instruments, and a wide body feel. What comes to mind is that this is a sports car that can be ridden for a long time in one go. The original factory has 2-stage adjustable seat height, 5-stage heating handle, automatic return steering light, 12V car charging seat, LED headlights with excellent breadth and brightness. The wide body provides Knight with more wind pressure protection, and all feel the luxury of the station wagon model. In addition, the design of the side box installation hole position can maintain the originally clean lines when the side box is not installed, and there is no need to install a bracket that affects the beauty for the side box. Among the options Honda launched for the VFR800F, long-distance practicality is also mainly used, but the in-speed fast-distance system has the need to reduce the burden of long-distance riding and the demand for hot-blooded riding on the mountain road, providing a better riding experience.
LED headlights, luxury instruments, heating handles, original reserved side box lock points, etc.
plus optional mid-stents, fast-rows, and side boxes all emphasize the luxury of VFR and the comfort of long-distance riding. Optional mid-support. The two car manufacturers and two car series have similar historical evolutions.
A lap of riding around the pond, the tone of the SUPERSPORT S and VFR800F are already in our minds. If we want to simply distinguish the tone of the two, we can say that the SUPERSPORT S is a more comfortable imitation race, while the VFR800F is a more sporty travel race. If you are a 100% mountain soul knight, and you always have a imitation race soul in your heart, and you will be willing to ride it all day long as you go out, then the SUPERSPORT S is your dream car model. But if you need a competent car that supports you to make plans and satisfy your passionate heart, it can also take you to see all the mountains and rivers of Taiwan, the VFR800F can definitely bring you a rich motorcycle life. This tone presentation also clearly shows the difference in car manufacturing concepts between Ducati and Honda.
SUPERSPORT and VFR can be said to be "seeking the same in the difference, and seeking the same in the same."
's way back to Taipei reminded me of something interesting. Although the Ducati SUPERSPORT S has evolved over generations, it still inherited the title of the 750 SUPER SPORT model in the 1970s, which is rich in top performance. The Honda VFR800F is a long history since its debut in 1986. At that time, both series were the best sports car models. With the changing times, the strongest performance cars in each factory replaced SUPERSPORT and VFR with new series, and took the same general sports car with the goal of taking into account sports and daily riding as the direction.
