「鍵盤俠」湖人計劃老詹打先發PG|有球詹遠強於無球詹？

[Haynes] Yahoo Sources: Los Angeles Lakers intend to move LeBron James to the starting point guard position.

據雅虎名記Haynes報道，聯盟消息人士透露，湖人計劃讓詹姆斯新賽季打先發控衛位置。

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[–]Raptors stevntiny 10.3k points 6 hours ago

It』s about time he started treating this game like its 2K

猛龍球迷：老詹這是開始像玩2K一樣玩籃球了啊

[–][CHI] Derrick Rose jeric13xd 322 points 6 hours ago

Always been the PG on 2k. Playing him with Allen, Miller, Battier, and Bosh was unfair.

公牛球迷：他在2k里一直都是控衛啊。他和阿倫、米勒、巴蒂爾和波什一隊，很不公平。

[–]76ers jrobho 22 points 5 hours ago

As a veteran NBA 2K player, I can confirm that moving a 3/4 to the 1 is a game-breaker. Simmons is a yearly MVP candidate even without the jumper as a PG.

76人球迷：作為一個2K的資深玩家，我可以確認，把一個三四號位球員調到1號位影響很大。西蒙斯打控衛即便沒有跳投，還能年年成為MVP候選。

[–][LAL] Kobe Bryant Dread- 83 points 7 hours ago

PG BRON

湖人球迷：控衛詹！！！

[–]Thunder thisguy2164 98 points 7 hours ago

LeBron's 4th prime: LeMagic

雷霆球迷：詹姆斯的第四個巔峰：魔術詹！

[–]Wizards get_too 1799 points 6 hours ago

Magic Bronson

奇才球迷：魔術師布朗遜！

[–]Lakers JimmyChongaz 5 points 4 hours ago

Point Forward LeMar Odom.

湖人球迷：控球前鋒勒瑪爾-奧多姆。

[–]Spurs renieri 7486 points 5 hours ago

This will be a challenge for LeBron. Starting point guard, starting power forward, assistant head coach, unofficial president of basketball operations, and manager of Taco Tuesdays.

馬刺球迷：這對詹姆斯來說是個挑戰啊。先發控衛、先發大前、助理教練、非正式籃球運營總裁，還身兼TACO（湖人主場贏球並限制對手得分100以內，球迷可獲taco卷餅）周二的食品發放經理。

[–]MysticKnives 1088 points 5 hours ago

Hosting dem Taco Tuesdays for the whole team is the biggest challenge

對於湖人全隊來說，用taco招待觀眾是最大的挑戰。

[–]Knicks monster_krak3n 299 points 5 hours ago

Don』t forget director, producer and main star of space jam 2

尼克斯球迷：別忘了老詹《空中大灌籃2》導演、製片和主演的身份。

[–]Raptors The_Natural_Log 7 points 4 hours ago

Also the casting director as well as HR (handling payroll)

猛龍球迷：還是選角導演和負責發片酬的人力呢。

[–]stonerama22 140 points 7 hours ago

Point LeBron could be deadly

控衛詹還是很致命的

[–]Bulls Tankwagon jacob2815 114 points 6 hours ago

Yes, he's been pretty deadly in his career lol

公牛球迷：可不是嘛，他整個職業生涯都很致命啊，哈哈

[–]urk1310 112 points 7 hours ago

He had one game at the 1 in cleveland his last year and he went for 34 pts 13 ast

他第一次離開克利夫蘭之前的最後一個賽季有場比賽打1號位，拿下了34分13助。

[–]Trail Blazers Soap_MacLavish 44 points 6 hours ago

He's basically always point Lebron though? Lol. He controls almost every possession on offense one way or the other.

開拓者球迷：他不是幾乎一直都是控衛詹嗎？哈哈哈。他在進攻端用各種方式基本控制了每個回合。

[–]Raptors klaysDoodle 9 points 5 hours ago

He's fucking lazy (for an NBA player) off ball though. Then when he does nothing the rest of his team starts to do nothing.

Lebron with the ball is always >>>>>> than Lebron off the ball.

猛龍球迷：不過老詹無球的時候還真特么懶（對於一名NBA球員來說）。當他啥也不做的時候，其他人也開始偷懶。

有球詹一直都遠強於無球詹。

[–]Celtics fakercmn 52 points 8 hours ago

Is he the best point guard in the league?

凱爾特人球迷：他是聯盟最佳控衛嗎？

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[–][GSW] Chris Mullin WindLane 15 points 5 hours ago

"[Haynes] Yahoo Sources: Los Angeles Lakers intend to move LeBron James..."

WHAT!?

"...to the starting point guard position."

oh.

勇士球迷：「據雅虎名記Haynes報道，聯盟消息人士透露，湖人打算將詹姆斯轉（move有交易之意）到……」

啥？！

「……首發控衛位置。」

哦

[–][GSW] Kevin Durant shanetrey5 4970 points 8 hours ago

Gave me a heart attack

勇士球迷：嚇得我心臟病都犯了

[–][BOS] Marcus Smart airmagswag 3030 points 8 hours ago

They had me in the first half I』m not gonna lie.

凱爾特人球迷：不說假話，這條新聞的前半部分真嚇到我了

[–][DAL] Wang Zhizhi suzukigun4life 38 points 8 hours ago

Yeah those first eight words fucked me up

王治郅球迷：是的，那頭八個詞給我整懵逼了

[–]Supersonics Roger--Smith 183 points 8 hours ago

Haynes knows how to construct a headline that will make sure people re read it lol

超音速球迷：Haynes真是個標題黨，就為了保證點擊率，哈哈哈

[–]Kings sactownproud 1076 points 7 hours ago

I THOUGHT HE GOT TRADED SMH

國王球迷：我還以為詹姆斯被交易了呢，哎

[–]kobmug 1285 points 8 hours ago

Even after all the madness of this offseason a LeBron trade would have been the wildest thing.

即便這個休賽期已經如此瘋狂了，要是老詹的交易出現的話，那還是最扯的。

[–]Lakers irondraggon 779 points 8 hours ago

After getting AD and actually filling the roster with shooters I think I would die

湖人球迷：尤其是在我們得到戴維斯，還配了一幫射手的情況下，要是詹姆斯沒了那我想死。

[–]Lakers 12D3 854 points 7 hours ago*

"Lakers intend to move Lebron James to the Clippers for Paul George"

Kawhi's final move to fuck with the Lakers.

湖人球迷：「湖人打算將詹姆斯交易到快船換喬治。」

小卡的終極操作是搞垮湖人

[–]harden-is-my-daddy 225 points 6 hours ago

Does the robot have no mercy

難道這個機械人一點憐憫之心都沒嗎？

[–]Spurs winnebagomafia 50 points 6 hours ago

it was Zaza who permanently damaged it in the '17 WCF, it's the only explanation..

馬刺球迷：扎扎在17年的西決徹底毀滅了小卡的同情心，只能這麼解釋了

[–]viniribeiro 1573 points 7 hours ago

LeBron, Green, Kuzma,AD and Cousins

Thats pretty sick

詹姆斯、格林、庫茲馬、戴維斯和考辛斯

這個陣容很變態了

[–]kdottt35 4 points 7 hours ago

Lmao the Lakers are about to allow 140 points a game with their starting lineup.

哈哈哈哈哈，要是這個首發的話，湖人怕是要讓對手單場拿140分。

[–]NBA spacegrip 56 points 7 hours ago

lmao at kuzma sf

c a s u a l

哈哈哈哈，庫茲馬打小前

鬧呢

[–][NOP] Frank Jackson DaddyBelinelli 45 points 7 hours ago

Kuzma at 3 is a feast for the Clippers lol

鵜鶘球迷：庫茲馬打3號位那還不是讓快船吃餃子啊，哈哈

[–]Lakers BiasedBavarian 82 points 7 hours ago

And their PF/C combo is a feast for AD/Boogie... what』s your point?

湖人球迷：那快船的大前和中鋒對上考神和戴維斯也是送啊……你想說啥呢？

[–]Lakers xkoalasx 25 points 6 hours ago

Kuz can not guard small forwards.

湖人球迷：庫茲馬防不住對方的小前鋒

[–]salzcamino 21 points 7 hours ago

Nobody in that lineup is quick enough to defend an actual point guard

那套陣容里沒有人的速度能跟得上對手的純控衛。

[–]Lakers kingpc 615 points 7 hours ago*

I think that lineup takes a hit defensively. Swap out Bradley/KCP with Kuz to have Bradley and Green guarding opposing 1&2. Kuz can be the 6th man and close out games.

It also gives Boogie & AD space to operate better. Kuz still has to prove he needs to be respected beyond the 3 but other parts of his offense are still strong and can be of great use when he is primary or secondary scoring threat as 6 man

湖人球迷：我覺得那套陣容防守漏洞很大。用布拉德利或波普換下庫茲馬，讓布拉德利和格林去防對方的1號位和2號位。庫茲馬可以打第六人，也可以在比賽末段出場。

這樣還能讓考神和戴維斯得到發揮的空間。庫茲馬仍然需要證明自己的三分投射，不過他其他的進攻武器還是很厲害的，當他以第六人身份出場任第一或第二得分點時，作用還是蠻大的。

[–]Wizards acosmichippo 209 points 6 hours ago

Agreed. Who is going to guard the opposing guards? Green and who? Lebron isn』t running 1』s and 2』s around screens. Kuzma can try but he』ll fail.

This lineup will get torched by offensively solid backcourts like the clippers, houston, etc.

奇才球迷：同意。就那套陣容，誰去防對手的後衛啊？格林和誰呢？詹姆斯可不會繞着擋拆去追對方的一二號位。庫茲馬可以試試，但是沒用的。那套陣容要是碰上快船和火箭這種後場進攻很穩的球隊，那他們的防守會被對方耍起來的。

[–]Lakers kingpc 48 points 6 hours ago

Like I said Kuz needs to come off the bench and Bradley/Green will be starting guarding opposing guards.

Alos, Clippers are NOT a solid offensive backcourt - Beverly is a great defender but only good offensively. Shamet is a good shooter in his 2nd year.

Houston - Agreed

湖人球迷：我說了，庫茲馬必須打替補，布拉德利和格林會先發出場防對手的後衛。

再者，快船的後場組合進攻可不算穩，貝弗利防守很好，可是進攻能力就馬馬虎虎。沙梅特投射很好。

至於說休斯頓後場的進攻，沒得說。

[–]DFisBUSY 153 points 6 hours ago

Dame and CJ would feast

就利拉德和麥科勒姆就能打爆他們。

[–]fugyu247 54 points 6 hours ago

I think LBJ, AD and Green are locks. The last 2 spots will be matchup based. Super versatile roster

我覺得詹姆斯、戴維斯和格林的首發是妥妥的。最後兩個名額會依據對手的風格而定。湖人這套陣容還是很多樣的。

[–]Magic bobbydigital_ftw 38 points 7 hours ago

L O N G B O I lineup:

PG: LeBron

SG: Green

SF: AD

PF: Boogie

C: McGee

魔術球迷：組個長人首發陣容吧：詹姆斯、格林、戴維斯、考辛斯、麥基

[–]Warriors OldUncleEli 31 points 6 hours ago

CP3 just runs through everyone』s legs on his way to an easy basket

勇士球迷：那保羅可以穿過湖人所有首發的胯下，輕鬆籃下得分。

[–]Lakers kingpc 828 points 6 hours ago

Starting Lineup: Bron Bradley Green AD McGee/Boogie

6th man: Kuz

Bench: Rondo Cook KCP

湖人球迷：首發還得這麼排：詹姆斯、布拉德利、格林、戴維斯、麥基或考辛斯

第六人：庫茲馬

板凳：隆多、庫克、波普

[–]SirDoctorJustice 335 points 6 hours ago

Best lineup Ive seen with this roster. Bradley and Green guard opposing teams 1 and 2?

這是能排出的最佳陣容了。布拉德利和格林防對面的一二號位？

[–]Lakers kingpc 170 points 6 hours ago

Yup. Bradley can actually guard the PG very well and the SG position well. Green can hold his own against Guards and SF』s. This will minimize any mismatches while playing switching defense.

Also, them guarding 1 & 2 will allow Bron to guard his own position.

湖人球迷：沒錯。其實布拉德利可以把對手的控衛和分衛防得很好。格林防對方的後衛和小前也不在話下。這就可以將錯位防守的弊端減到最少。

而且他倆還能讓詹姆斯防自己的位置。

[–]Lakers MySafeForWorkAcct69 62 points 7 hours ago

KCP over bradley most likely, can also guard ones pretty well

湖人球迷：波普很可能會優於布拉德利先發，他也能防的很好

[–]Private Aids 24 points 6 hours ago

And from what I hear KCP actually plays defense in comparison to Bradley, hope he steps up this year

據我所知，比起布拉德利，波普是真的有防守，希望他今年能站出來吧。

[–]Lakers FuckWayne 35 points 7 hours ago

Caruso has a shot at playing 2 over Bradley/KCP imo

湖人球迷：我覺得卡魯索有機會在2號位競爭過布拉德利和波普

[–]Lakers vizzlypoof 30 points 7 hours ago

Maybe if he proves to be a shooter off ball later in the season and be able to guard starter level players. For now, it』s a safer bet to let him go up against opposing point guards and be a pest.

湖人球迷：或許得等到他在賽季後期證明自己無球的投射能力，而且能防對手的首發球員時再說吧。就現在來說，還是讓他纏着對手的控衛吧。

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[–][GSW] Klay Thompson Xavientt 1127 points 7 hours ago

Always has been one

勇士球迷：他一直都是啊

[–]Lakers mr-fiend 793 points 7 hours ago

But usually another PG actually starts as well, I think this is saying there won』t be a traditional PG starting, since our guard depth is ass.

湖人球迷：可是通常來說會有另一個控衛先發，我覺得湖人這次的意思是不會有傳統控衛先發了，畢竟我們後衛的深度很菜。

[–]Trail Blazers adirtybubble 336 points 6 hours ago

Basically the tweet says 「Rajon Rondo will not be starting」. It』s not semantics, it means he』s not going to be playing next to a PG like he has most of his career.

開拓者球迷：那條推特的意思基本就是「隆多不會出任先發」。就是說老詹不會像以前一樣，和一個控衛一起上場打球了。

[–]Lakers Greatergoodbad 26 points 5 hours ago

Yep. This is the signal they』re done messing around. Last year must have really upset him with all the ball handling non shooters. This team is custom built for AD and Lebron to be maximized. With Kyrie and Wade he had to share duties. Now he』s going full on Magic.

湖人球迷：對啊。這是一種信號，我湖不想再亂搞了。上賽季球權都在非投手手裡控着，這肯定讓老詹不爽了。現在這支湖人是為了使戴維斯和詹姆斯的作用最大化而量身打造的。以前和歐文、韋德搭檔的時候，他還得分擔些任務。現在就要完全進入魔術師模式了。

[–][BOS] Jayson Tatum JitteryBug 87 points 5 hours ago

100%. Rondo and LeBron were awful together in +/- so they'd rather have Rondo run the point when LeBron is off the floor

凱爾特人球迷：肯定的。隆多和詹姆斯一起出場時效率值很低，所以湖人更希望老詹下場時再由隆多控場。

[–]peppermintpattymills 23 points 4 hours ago

Yeah makes sense. Rondo would be good purely as LeBron's backup, doesn't make sense to have both of them out there together since they're both extremely ball dominant.

這就說得通了。隆多僅僅出任老詹替補的話會很厲害的，要是讓他倆一同出場的話那就沒啥意義了，畢竟他倆都是很依賴球權的。

[–]Supersonics GallentKnights 211 points 6 hours ago

So who would be guarding small guards then? Bradley?

超音速球迷：那麼誰來防對方的小個後衛呢？布拉德利？

[–]Heat Nice_Ass_Lawn 377 points 6 hours ago

Danny Green or KCP or LeBron. Just cuz he starts at the 1 doesn't mean he will guard 1s

熱火球迷：格林、波普或老詹。他首發打1號位並不意味着他會防對方的一號位。

[–]pmacob 318 points 6 hours ago

Yeah this is just going to be like Ben Simmons. Bron plays the 1 on offense, but guards 3s and 4s on defense.

Really, this doesn't mean much. Just that they're going to start Bron, AD, Cousins, and two shooters (Green and Caruso/KCP I'd imagine).

是啊。就是像西蒙斯一樣嘛。詹姆斯進攻時打1號位，防守時打三四號位。

其實這也沒多大影響。就是說這樣以來可以讓詹姆斯、戴維斯、考辛斯和兩個射手（我覺得格林和卡魯索或波普）同時出場。

[–]inmybutt69696969 129 points 6 hours ago

Yup. He's literally still playing small forward lol

是的。他其實還是打小前鋒，哈哈哈

[–][PHI] JaKarr Sampson Freak_Fest 29 points 5 hours ago

Ben guards the 1 a lot. He shut down DLo in the playoffs.

76人球迷：西蒙斯經常防對方一號位的，他在季後賽里就盯死了拉塞爾。

[–][CLE] Collin Sexton Emerphish 6 points 5 hours ago

That』s because philly is full of giants

其實球迷：那是因為76人一堆大個子。

[–]Wizards acosmichippo 76 points 6 hours ago

You are who you can guard.

奇才球迷：你能防誰就是誰。

[–]Lakers Desarticulation 61 points 5 hours ago

Wow so Pat Bev is KD? Holy stacked Clippers team.

湖人球迷：所以說貝弗利就是杜蘭特咯？擦，快船真是兵多將廣啊。

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[–]Knicks HokageEzio 222 points 8 hours ago

Didn't Lebron want to play off ball?

尼克斯球迷：詹姆斯之前不是想打無球嗎？

[–]AestheticStat21 197 points 8 hours ago

He says that but all of his teams end up being the same with him doing all the work and his fans saying he has no help.

他是說過那話，可是他所到之處的最終局面都一樣，就是他一人大包大攬，詹粉說他沒幫手。

[–]Cavaliers GiveAQuack 203 points 7 hours ago

Because it works the best by far. There's a reason Lebronball teams were top 5 offenses for a decade but Lakers weren't anywhere close.

騎士球迷：因為目前來看他有球的效果最好。過往十年「體系詹」籃球的進攻能排進聯盟前五，原因之一就是這。可是湖人之前還差得遠。

[–]Supersonics Zeech180 101 points 7 hours ago*

That's the truth. People and Lebron himself will come to accept that Lebronball is a legit offense and that as long he's on the team, It's best for him to have the ball.

超音速球迷：這是事實啊。體系詹籃球的進攻確實很穩，這一點是你我和老詹本人都得承認的。只要他在隊里，最好的方式就是他持球在手。

[–]Raptors klaysDoodle 54 points 6 hours ago

If you have Lebron on your team chances are he has the highest BBIQ and the best passing. There's no reason not to have him run the offense.

猛龍球迷：要是隊里有老詹，那就有了最高的球商和最佳的傳球。沒理由不讓他梳理進攻啊。

[–]nevershouldofcome 22 points 7 hours ago

LeBronball works pretty well offensively (well, except for 2015 but that was kind of an extreme case). 2014, 2017, 2018 Finals were lost due to defense.

體系詹籃球在進攻方面還是很厲害的（好吧，除了2015年，不過那是極端個案）。2014、2017和2018總決是因為防守輸球的。

[–]Lakers anal_savage1 98 points 8 hours ago

RIP league

湖人球迷：安息吧，聯盟

[–]76ers HarlemJazz 110 points 8 hours ago

RIP Bron's load management

76人球迷：老詹的負荷管理也可以歇菜了。

[–]Bucks OrneryZookeepergame7 104 points 8 hours ago*

It won't change anything, he'll probably be a fake PG like Simmons. Bradley/KCP/Danny Green can defend PGs.

This is actually a smart move. Just move LeBron to middle of the floor on offense so he isn't taking up AD or DMC's spot in the post and let him run PnR.

If the team had somebody else run PG, him, AD, and DMC couldn't really coexist together. Can't have three high usage front court players.

雄鹿球迷：不會有什麼影響的，他或許像西蒙斯那樣打偽控。布拉德利、波普和格林可以防對手控衛啊。

湖人這個變動很聰明。進攻的時候讓老詹站在中間，這樣就不會佔據戴維斯或者考辛斯的低位，還能打擋拆。

如果讓其他人打控衛，那他、戴維斯和考辛斯真不能共存。你不能同時擁有三個使用率高的前場球員吧。

[–]Raptors KawhiGotUsNow 32 points 7 hours ago

there's gonna be no change

he's gonna play the same way he has played his entire career

the ball may stay in his hands a lot, and the offence may stagnate, but it will undoubtedly be effective.

猛龍球迷：不會有變化的。老詹還是會按以往的方式打。

他或許會經常拿球，進攻也許會停滯，可是進攻很高效，毫無疑問的。

[–]Lakers LovetheNBA23 14 points 7 hours ago

Exactly. I have no idea how people who have watched Lebron post Miami are even surprised by this. It's all semantics. It just means the other true PG on the squad will play his backup minutes which is Rondo. Rondo at 13-14 mins a night is perfect for him. Bradley Green KCP Caruso and Cook will fill out the remaining minutes at the 2 and 3 spot when Bron is playing PG.

湖人球迷：就是這回事。你們有些人也是看過詹姆斯後邁阿密時期比賽的，搞不懂你們居然還會對此感到驚訝。這就是換了個說法啊。僅僅意味着另一個真正的控衛會打他的替補，那就是隆多。隆多每晚打個十三四分鐘就很完美了。詹姆斯打控衛的時候，布拉德利、格林、波普、卡魯索和庫克可以在二三號位分配其餘的時間。

[–]nevershouldofcome 9 points 7 hours ago

Why do people think that he would load manage? Before he injured his groin he played 156 games in a row and it had no effect on him.

為啥大家會認為他需要負荷管理？在他腹股溝受傷之前，連續打了156場比賽，高負荷對他沒有任何影響。

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編譯：雲長刮個痧