麥基稱所謂哮喘根本不重;鯊魚和被誇大的體力問題降低了他的價值

2022年07月02日17:46:04 熱門 1647

麥基:「關於哮喘,我要說的是:別沒完沒了地提了,搞得好像我在球場上喘不上來氣呼吸困難一樣。我這輩子就從來沒有過哮喘發作的時候。我覺得這種言論絕對降低了我作為籃球運動員的價值。」

Javale McGee: "This is what I want to say about the asthma. Stop bringing that up like I'm out here wheezing and having asthma attacks. I've never had an asthma attack in my life. I feel like that's definitely lowered my value as a basketball player."

麥基稱所謂哮喘根本不重;鯊魚和被誇大的體力問題降低了他的價值 - 天天要聞

Full context:

"This is what I want to say about the asthma," McGee said when asked about it after the game. "Stop bringing that up like I'm out here wheezing and having asthma attacks. I've never had an asthma attack in my life. I feel like that's definitely lowered my value as a basketball player.

全文背景如下:

在接受賽後採訪時,麥基被問到有關他哮喘的問題,他如此回應:「關於哮喘,我要說的是:別沒完沒了地提了,搞得好像我在球場上喘不上來氣呼吸困難一樣。我這輩子就從來沒有過哮喘發作的時候。我覺得這種言論絕對降低了我作為籃球運動員的價值。」

"People say, 'Oh he only can play 20 minutes because he has asthma.' No. there's a lot of people with asthma in the league. I feel like somebody stamped that excuse on me like, 'Cool, we can play him low minutes because he has asthma.'"

「人們總是說:『哦麥基每場只能打20分鐘,因為他有哮喘。』胡扯,聯盟中有很多人都有哮喘。我感覺大家已經習慣主動幫我找借口了:『麥基有哮喘,所以我們讓他少打會兒。』

McGee, who has not averaged more than 18.1 minutes per game in his previous six seasons, believes the narrative of him having to play in shorter stints due to asthma came when he spent three seasons in Denver from 2012 to 2015.

在之前的六個賽季中,麥基的平均出場時間都不超過18.1分鐘。麥基相信,自己由於哮喘所以只能在短時間段內上場的說法是在2012-15年期間傳出來的。那三個賽季,他為丹佛掘金效力。

"Probably Denver because of altitude," McGee said. "Anybody has a problem breathing in Denver."

「我在掘金打球的時候可能是有體力問題,也許是因為那兒的海拔吧。」麥基說到。「所有人在丹佛都會遇到呼吸問題。」

"They have asthma medicine," he added. "There's a reason I take it, so I don't have asthma when I take my asthma medicine."

「有種東西叫哮喘葯。」麥基補充道,「我吃它也是有原因的:因為我吃藥的話哮喘就不是問題了(還用我解釋嗎?)」

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[–]poopfeast180 2252 指標 9小時前

Yeah this asthma excuse is so dumb.

I know richard jefferson has asthma and he played plenty of minutes in his prime.

沒錯,這個所謂哮喘的借口簡直太蠢了。

我知道理乍得-傑弗森也有哮喘,但他在巔峰期還是有大把的出場時間。

[–]CelticsHighlighterTed 880 指標 9小時前*

It would be funny to see prime Richard Jefferson going up, getting his head above the rim, slamming down a massive tomahawk dunk... and then heading over to the sidelines to take a hit from an inhaler

想像一哈,巔峰傑弗森直搗禁區,高高躍起頭部超筐,啪嘰一下來個戰斧重扣……下來後小跑到邊線對着哮喘吸入器猛吸一口。這畫面太美我不敢看。

[–]Wizardsjyukuilzdf 667 指標 8小時前

JR Smith used to do exactly this, except it was a hit of the Henny

嚯,這簡直和過去的JR如出一轍啊,只不過他猛吸一口的不是哮喘葯而是軒尼詩。

[–]docpyro1 144 指標 7小時前

used to? he did it last night vs Brooklyn

過去?昨晚他在和籃網的比賽中剛這麼干過。

[–]Knicksjordansideas 181 指標 6小時前

he still does henny, but he used to too

尼克斯球迷:那句話怎麼說的來着?他現在還是會喝軒尼詩,但是他過去也喝。


[–]RocketsBwuk-Im-Zyzz 184 指標 9小時前

Harden has asthma as well.

火箭球迷:哈登也有哮喘啊。

[–]NBAsnapundersteer 58 指標 9小時前

Galen Rupp, Olympic medalist in the 10,000 and marathon has asthma. Chris Froome, one of the all time great cyclists has asthma. If treated its not a problem.

Galen Rupp是奧運會萬米以及馬拉松獎牌獲得者,他也有哮喘病。Chris Froome是最偉大的單車手之一,他也有哮喘。如果妥善治療,哮喘根本不算事兒。

[–]beebop222222 27 指標 7小時前

if treated its not a problem.

lol come on, this is definitely not true for everyone with asthma. It depends so much on the severity, patient factors, comorbidities, other lifestyle factors, etc. The people you mentioned may just have had very mild asthma.

引用:「如果妥善治療,哮喘根本不算事兒。」

老哥別鬧。這句話顯然不適用於所有哮喘患者。這和哮喘的嚴重程度,病人的個體差異,有無併發症,生活習慣等等都有很大的關係。你提到的那些人也許只是有輕度的哮喘而已。


[–]Lakershardy_v1 85 指標 9小時前

Guess his minutes will be controlled in Denver road games

湖人球迷:那看來我湖做客丹佛時,麥基的出場時間會受限啊。

[–]RaptorsDeArmani_DeBooker 229 指標 9小時前

revenge game today?

今日復仇之戰?[譯註2]

[譯註2]:本文翻於北京時間10月26日,即掘金vs湖人比賽日當天。

[–][DEN] Roy HibbertSiegeGod 121 指標 8小時前

If Javale plays in Denver like he did when he played for Denver, Jokić will score 50+ points

掘金球迷:如果麥基做客丹佛時的表現得就像他當年為我們效力時那麼爛,約老師大概能在他頭上砍個50+。


[–]Wizardswhite_light-king 1042 指標 9小時前

Yep.

It's his fouls per 36 minutes that keep him off the court, not the asthma. If you average 5+ fouls per 36 it's really tough to be counted on for more than 20 minutes.

奇才球迷:是的。

麥基出場時間少的主要原因是每36分鐘犯規數,而不是哮喘。如果一名球員每36分鐘犯規數大於5次,那麼教練很難指望他在一場比賽中上場超過20分鐘。

Wizards games he used to come in , make highlight plays, get two fouls and go back out to wait out his foul trouble.

當年麥基在我巫,他經常就是上場後貢獻幾個高光集錦,順帶送出兩次犯規,然後不得不因為犯規問題回到板凳上。

[–][DET] Ben Wallacejohnazoidberg- 589 指標 8小時前

Holy shit, actual analysis in a Javale thread?

我沒看錯吧?大麥基的帖子里居然有人一通正經分析?

[–]Wizardswhite_light-king 276 指標 8小時前

I have always been interested in Javale as a basketball player, not a meme, since he was on the Wizards. He's legitimately interesting because he has both real strengths and real flaws.

奇才球迷:自麥基為我巫效力起,我就一直對作為籃球運動員身份的麥基很感興趣,而不只是把他看成一個梗這麼簡單。他作為球員還真的非常有趣,因為他的優缺點都十分明顯。

[–]WizardsFat314 157 指標 8小時前

I kinda liked him and was upset when Blake won the Dunk contest over him just cuz of Kia.. He was never as bad as people portraited him. I mean, yeah he had some dumb plays but if you watch those dumb plays, most of them are out of hustle and passion, without recognizing that sometimes he doesn't have the skill for it.

奇才球密:那會兒我還挺喜歡他的。那年扣籃大賽格里芬靠着贊助商起亞贏了他時我還挺不開心的呢。他從來就沒有人們描述得那麼差。是,他在球場上確實會有無厘頭的表現,但如果你仔細觀察這些表現,你會發現這是因為麥基在球場上充滿了拼勁和熱情,沒有意識到自己缺乏打成那些球所需的技巧。

If we had a good development coach at the time when he was young and good vets, he could've been a great player.

如果當年尚為年輕的麥基能遇到一個優秀的球員培養教練和一眾靠譜的老將的話,他本能成為一個傑出的球員。

Only thing that shocks me is how does he have such a low BBIQ when his mother who is a very smart ex-WNBA star player who recently got into the W Hall of Fame and he has a sister that is currently playing in the WNBA that also has quite good BBIQ.

唯一讓我震驚的是,麥基的媽媽是一個非常聰明的前WNBA運動員,前陣子還進入了女籃名人堂,而且麥基的姐姐也在WNBA打球並且有着挺不錯的籃球智商,但麥基本人的籃球智商卻非常低。


[–][SAS] Manu GinobiliDctr_K 300 指標 9小時前

He looks fine playing a lot of mins. Not sure what you guys were talking about around here

馬刺球迷:他出場時間多的比賽我看也打得不錯啊,不知道說他體力不行的老哥是咋得出這個結論的。

[–]Lakersvizzlypoof 223 指標 9小時前

And he』s going BALLS OUT for those minutes. He is defending the rim so well and sprinting to the basket for put backs and alley oops. It』ll be incredible if he does get to 30+mpg for all that he does on the court.

湖人球迷:而且那些比賽,麥基完全是打!瘋!了!他能很好地保護自家籃筐,在進攻端可以衝刺完成補籃或者空接啥的。如果麥基能在30+的上場時間中一直做到這些,那就太棒了。

[–][TOR] Fred VanVleetplushPudding 96 指標 9小時前

Doubt any 7 footer can do what McGee is doing rn for 30+

我認為沒有一個七尺(2.13米)長人可以在三十多分鐘的上場時間裏完美複製麥基目前在場上的所作所為。

[–]Lakersvizzlypoof 135 指標 8小時前

Capela and Deandre Jordan do it and do it better. But that』s why they』re paid the way they』re paid and why McGee hasn』t cashed in.

But if McGee gets to 25-30 mpg by the end of the season on the same really good efficiency, he』s gonna get a fat pay day.

湖人球迷:卡佩拉和小喬丹可以,而且他們還能做得更好 。但話說回來了,這也是為什麼他們能拿到大合同而麥基不行。

不過,如果到了賽季末尾麥基的出場時間能穩定在25-30分鐘左右,並且效率不錯的話,那麼他在休賽季是會拿到肥約的。


[–]LakersTheLeBrontoRaptors 184 指標 9小時前

"You think I won Shaqtin a fool MVP with Asthma? Hell no!"

湖人球迷:麥基:「你當我是靠着哮喘才拿下五大囧MVP的嗎?大錯特錯!」

[–][GSW] Stephen CurryTheMountainThatBalls 115 指標 8小時前

Asthma and Shaq have cost McGee millions. He is way better and more capable than his reputation would lead you to believe. I』m glad the Lakers seem to be giving him a chance to prove that.

勇士球迷:哮喘流言和沙克五大囧的惡搞讓麥基損失了不少錢。麥基其實遠比人們因為他的名聲而想像的強很多。很讓我開心的是,湖人似乎正在給麥基一個證明自己的機會。

[–]RaptorsShadowghost1020 23 指標 7小時前

I find the image of professional scouts and GMs in a room talking about which players to acquire and they gloss over Javale because his file says: "the internet says his asthma is a problem and shaq thinks hes dumb." Its not that simple lol head offices dont take that shit into account

想像一下,專業球探和球隊總經理們聚在一個房間里,商量着球隊要去補強哪些球員,他們排除了麥基,因為麥基的球探報告中寫着:「互聯網網民都說他的哮喘是一個問題,而奧尼爾認為他是個二貨。」……哈哈哈,根本沒這麼簡單好吧,管理層才不會把這些屁事考慮在內呢。

[–]Bulls_devildinosaur 25 指標 6小時前

the argument is that these things bleed into the decisionmaking as unconscious bias.

I think we tend to overrate how smart or plugged in front offices are to everything in the NBA. We know that GMs and front offices absolutely take these kinds of rumors into consideration, because Danny Ferry, a GM that a lot of people liked, got fired for reciting a bunch of them about Luol Deng.

公牛球迷:關於此問題,一個說法是這些因素確實會影響決策,但主要是由於潛意識裡的偏見而不是明面上的。

我覺得大家都容易高估管理層的智慧和認真謹慎的態度。他們並不是對NBA里發生的所有事情都事無巨細地瞭然於胸。實際上,球隊經理和管理層是絕對會把一些流言蜚語當作考慮因素的。舉個例子吧,丹尼-費里原本是很多人都喜歡的一位球隊經理,但就是因為複述了一堆有關羅爾-鄧的謠言而被炒了魷魚。

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