麦基称所谓哮喘根本不重；鲨鱼和被夸大的体力问题降低了他的价值

麦基：“关于哮喘，我要说的是：别没完没了地提了，搞得好像我在球场上喘不上来气呼吸困难一样。我这辈子就从来没有过哮喘发作的时候。我觉得这种言论绝对降低了我作为篮球运动员的价值。”

Javale McGee: "This is what I want to say about the asthma. Stop bringing that up like I'm out here wheezing and having asthma attacks. I've never had an asthma attack in my life. I feel like that's definitely lowered my value as a basketball player."

Full context:

"This is what I want to say about the asthma," McGee said when asked about it after the game. "Stop bringing that up like I'm out here wheezing and having asthma attacks. I've never had an asthma attack in my life. I feel like that's definitely lowered my value as a basketball player.

全文背景如下：

在接受赛后采访时，麦基被问到有关他哮喘的问题，他如此回应：“关于哮喘，我要说的是：别没完没了地提了，搞得好像我在球场上喘不上来气呼吸困难一样。我这辈子就从来没有过哮喘发作的时候。我觉得这种言论绝对降低了我作为篮球运动员的价值。”

"People say, 'Oh he only can play 20 minutes because he has asthma.' No. there's a lot of people with asthma in the league. I feel like somebody stamped that excuse on me like, 'Cool, we can play him low minutes because he has asthma.'"

“人们总是说:‘哦麦基每场只能打20分钟，因为他有哮喘。’胡扯，联盟中有很多人都有哮喘。我感觉大家已经习惯主动帮我找借口了：‘麦基有哮喘，所以我们让他少打会儿。’

McGee, who has not averaged more than 18.1 minutes per game in his previous six seasons, believes the narrative of him having to play in shorter stints due to asthma came when he spent three seasons in Denver from 2012 to 2015.

在之前的六个赛季中，麦基的平均出场时间都不超过18.1分钟。麦基相信，自己由于哮喘所以只能在短时间段内上场的说法是在2012-15年期间传出来的。那三个赛季，他为丹佛掘金效力。

"Probably Denver because of altitude," McGee said. "Anybody has a problem breathing in Denver."

“我在掘金打球的时候可能是有体力问题，也许是因为那儿的海拔吧。”麦基说到。“所有人在丹佛都会遇到呼吸问题。”

"They have asthma medicine," he added. "There's a reason I take it, so I don't have asthma when I take my asthma medicine."

“有种东西叫哮喘药。”麦基补充道，“我吃它也是有原因的：因为我吃药的话哮喘就不是问题了（还用我解释吗？）”

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[–]poopfeast180 2252 指标 9小时前

Yeah this asthma excuse is so dumb.

I know richard jefferson has asthma and he played plenty of minutes in his prime.

没错，这个所谓哮喘的借口简直太蠢了。

我知道理查德-杰弗森也有哮喘，但他在巅峰期还是有大把的出场时间。

[–]CelticsHighlighterTed 880 指标 9小时前*

It would be funny to see prime Richard Jefferson going up, getting his head above the rim, slamming down a massive tomahawk dunk... and then heading over to the sidelines to take a hit from an inhaler

想象一哈，巅峰杰弗森直捣禁区，高高跃起头部超筐，啪叽一下来个战斧重扣……下来后小跑到边线对着哮喘吸入器猛吸一口。这画面太美我不敢看。

[–]Wizardsjyukuilzdf 667 指标 8小时前

JR Smith used to do exactly this, except it was a hit of the Henny

嚯，这简直和过去的JR如出一辙啊，只不过他猛吸一口的不是哮喘药而是轩尼诗。

[–]docpyro1 144 指标 7小时前

used to? he did it last night vs Brooklyn

过去？昨晚他在和篮网的比赛中刚这么干过。

[–]Knicksjordansideas 181 指标 6小时前

he still does henny, but he used to too

尼克斯球迷：那句话怎么说的来着？他现在还是会喝轩尼诗，但是他过去也喝。

[–]RocketsBwuk-Im-Zyzz 184 指标 9小时前

Harden has asthma as well.

火箭球迷：哈登也有哮喘啊。

[–]NBAsnapundersteer 58 指标 9小时前

Galen Rupp, Olympic medalist in the 10,000 and marathon has asthma. Chris Froome, one of the all time great cyclists has asthma. If treated its not a problem.

Galen Rupp是奥运会万米以及马拉松奖牌获得者，他也有哮喘病。Chris Froome是最伟大的自行车手之一，他也有哮喘。如果妥善治疗，哮喘根本不算事儿。

[–]beebop222222 27 指标 7小时前

if treated its not a problem.

lol come on, this is definitely not true for everyone with asthma. It depends so much on the severity, patient factors, comorbidities, other lifestyle factors, etc. The people you mentioned may just have had very mild asthma.

引用：“如果妥善治疗，哮喘根本不算事儿。”

老哥别闹。这句话显然不适用于所有哮喘患者。这和哮喘的严重程度，病人的个体差异，有无并发症，生活习惯等等都有很大的关系。你提到的那些人也许只是有轻度的哮喘而已。

[–]Lakershardy_v1 85 指标 9小时前

Guess his minutes will be controlled in Denver road games

湖人球迷：那看来我湖做客丹佛时，麦基的出场时间会受限啊。

[–]RaptorsDeArmani_DeBooker 229 指标 9小时前

revenge game today?

今日复仇之战？[译注2]

[译注2]：本文翻于北京时间10月26日，即掘金vs湖人比赛日当天。

[–][DEN] Roy HibbertSiegeGod 121 指标 8小时前

If Javale plays in Denver like he did when he played for Denver, Jokić will score 50+ points

掘金球迷：如果麦基做客丹佛时的表现得就像他当年为我们效力时那么烂，约老师大概能在他头上砍个50+。

[–]Wizardswhite_light-king 1042 指标 9小时前

Yep.

It's his fouls per 36 minutes that keep him off the court, not the asthma. If you average 5+ fouls per 36 it's really tough to be counted on for more than 20 minutes.

奇才球迷：是的。

麦基出场时间少的主要原因是每36分钟犯规数，而不是哮喘。如果一名球员每36分钟犯规数大于5次，那么教练很难指望他在一场比赛中上场超过20分钟。

Wizards games he used to come in , make highlight plays, get two fouls and go back out to wait out his foul trouble.

当年麦基在我巫，他经常就是上场后贡献几个高光集锦，顺带送出两次犯规，然后不得不因为犯规问题回到板凳上。

[–][DET] Ben Wallacejohnazoidberg- 589 指标 8小时前

Holy shit, actual analysis in a Javale thread?

我没看错吧？大麦基的帖子里居然有人一通正经分析？

[–]Wizardswhite_light-king 276 指标 8小时前

I have always been interested in Javale as a basketball player, not a meme, since he was on the Wizards. He's legitimately interesting because he has both real strengths and real flaws.

奇才球迷：自麦基为我巫效力起，我就一直对作为篮球运动员身份的麦基很感兴趣，而不只是把他看成一个梗这么简单。他作为球员还真的非常有趣，因为他的优缺点都十分明显。

[–]WizardsFat314 157 指标 8小时前

I kinda liked him and was upset when Blake won the Dunk contest over him just cuz of Kia.. He was never as bad as people portraited him. I mean, yeah he had some dumb plays but if you watch those dumb plays, most of them are out of hustle and passion, without recognizing that sometimes he doesn't have the skill for it.

奇才球密：那会儿我还挺喜欢他的。那年扣篮大赛格里芬靠着赞助商起亚赢了他时我还挺不开心的呢。他从来就没有人们描述得那么差。是，他在球场上确实会有无厘头的表现，但如果你仔细观察这些表现，你会发现这是因为麦基在球场上充满了拼劲和热情，没有意识到自己缺乏打成那些球所需的技巧。

If we had a good development coach at the time when he was young and good vets, he could've been a great player.

如果当年尚为年轻的麦基能遇到一个优秀的球员培养教练和一众靠谱的老将的话，他本能成为一个杰出的球员。

Only thing that shocks me is how does he have such a low BBIQ when his mother who is a very smart ex-WNBA star player who recently got into the W Hall of Fame and he has a sister that is currently playing in the WNBA that also has quite good BBIQ.

唯一让我震惊的是，麦基的妈妈是一个非常聪明的前WNBA运动员，前阵子还进入了女篮名人堂，而且麦基的姐姐也在WNBA打球并且有着挺不错的篮球智商，但麦基本人的篮球智商却非常低。

[–][SAS] Manu GinobiliDctr_K 300 指标 9小时前

He looks fine playing a lot of mins. Not sure what you guys were talking about around here

马刺球迷：他出场时间多的比赛我看也打得不错啊，不知道说他体力不行的老哥是咋得出这个结论的。

[–]Lakersvizzlypoof 223 指标 9小时前

And he’s going BALLS OUT for those minutes. He is defending the rim so well and sprinting to the basket for put backs and alley oops. It’ll be incredible if he does get to 30+mpg for all that he does on the court.

湖人球迷：而且那些比赛，麦基完全是打！疯！了！他能很好地保护自家篮筐，在进攻端可以冲刺完成补篮或者空接啥的。如果麦基能在30+的上场时间中一直做到这些，那就太棒了。

[–][TOR] Fred VanVleetplushPudding 96 指标 9小时前

Doubt any 7 footer can do what McGee is doing rn for 30+

我认为没有一个七尺（2.13米）长人可以在三十多分钟的上场时间里完美复制麦基目前在场上的所作所为。

[–]Lakersvizzlypoof 135 指标 8小时前

Capela and Deandre Jordan do it and do it better. But that’s why they’re paid the way they’re paid and why McGee hasn’t cashed in.

But if McGee gets to 25-30 mpg by the end of the season on the same really good efficiency, he’s gonna get a fat pay day.

湖人球迷：卡佩拉和小乔丹可以，而且他们还能做得更好 。但话说回来了，这也是为什么他们能拿到大合同而麦基不行。

不过，如果到了赛季末尾麦基的出场时间能稳定在25-30分钟左右，并且效率不错的话，那么他在休赛季是会拿到肥约的。

[–]LakersTheLeBrontoRaptors 184 指标 9小时前

"You think I won Shaqtin a fool MVP with Asthma? Hell no!"

湖人球迷：麦基：“你当我是靠着哮喘才拿下五大囧MVP的吗？大错特错！”

[–][GSW] Stephen CurryTheMountainThatBalls 115 指标 8小时前

Asthma and Shaq have cost McGee millions. He is way better and more capable than his reputation would lead you to believe. I’m glad the Lakers seem to be giving him a chance to prove that.

勇士球迷：哮喘流言和沙克五大囧的恶搞让麦基损失了不少钱。麦基其实远比人们因为他的名声而想象的强很多。很让我开心的是，湖人似乎正在给麦基一个证明自己的机会。

[–]RaptorsShadowghost1020 23 指标 7小时前

I find the image of professional scouts and GMs in a room talking about which players to acquire and they gloss over Javale because his file says: "the internet says his asthma is a problem and shaq thinks hes dumb." Its not that simple lol head offices dont take that shit into account

想象一下，专业球探和球队总经理们聚在一个房间里，商量着球队要去补强哪些球员，他们排除了麦基，因为麦基的球探报告中写着：“互联网网民都说他的哮喘是一个问题，而奥尼尔认为他是个二货。”……哈哈哈，根本没这么简单好吧，管理层才不会把这些屁事考虑在内呢。

[–]Bulls_devildinosaur 25 指标 6小时前

the argument is that these things bleed into the decisionmaking as unconscious bias.

I think we tend to overrate how smart or plugged in front offices are to everything in the NBA. We know that GMs and front offices absolutely take these kinds of rumors into consideration, because Danny Ferry, a GM that a lot of people liked, got fired for reciting a bunch of them about Luol Deng.

公牛球迷：关于此问题，一个说法是这些因素确实会影响决策，但主要是由于潜意识里的偏见而不是明面上的。

我觉得大家都容易高估管理层的智慧和认真谨慎的态度。他们并不是对NBA里发生的所有事情都事无巨细地了然于胸。实际上，球队经理和管理层是绝对会把一些流言蜚语当作考虑因素的。举个例子吧，丹尼-费里原本是很多人都喜欢的一位球队经理，但就是因为复述了一堆有关罗尔-邓的谣言而被炒了鱿鱼。

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