馬努是史上「最贏」的人｜無懸念進名人堂

討論主題：據美媒Elias Sports Bureau統計，吉諾比利職業生涯出戰1057場常規賽，總勝率為72.1%，這也讓他成為NBA歷史上至少出戰1000場常規賽的球員中勝率最高的球員。

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[–]Huckleberry_Sin975 points 19 hours ago

Winningest player in NBA history.

NBA史上最贏的球員

[–]WarriorsSF_CITIZEN_POLICE 286 points 18 hours ago

He averaged 13 ppg for his career. Just goes to show it not always how much you score, but when you score.

他生涯也就場均13分，這表明了得分多少並不是絕對重要，重要的是何時得分。

[–]therealsheriff 79 points 18 hours ago

Manu may be the quintessential example of a player you can』t judge by his stats. In his prime he could have led a team.

馬努大概是一個典型的不能依靠數據來評價的球員，在他的巔峰期，他可以輕鬆地當一支球隊的老大。

[–]NBAzxc123zxc123 925 points 19 hours ago*

Winningest NBA player outside of NBA history too.

Because Manu took down the 2004 US Olympic team with Carmelo Anthony, Tim Duncan, Allen Iverson, Lebron James, Dwyane Wade, prime Odom/Boozer/Amar'e, Richard Jefferson, Shawn Marion, Stephon Marbury, and coached by Larry Brown. That team so stacked POPOVICH was their assistant coach!

Lebron beat GSW Kyrie/Love. Jordan 3-peated with Pippen/Rodman. Manu did it Luis Scola.

他不僅是NBA最贏的球員，也是NBA之外最贏的球員。

因為他擊敗了2004年那支夢之隊，那支夢之隊有甜瓜、獃獃、AI、幼詹、韋碟、奧噹噹、布澤爾、小斯、理查德姐夫深、馬良、馬布里，主教練是拉里-布朗，陣容豪華到波波都只能當助教！

勒布朗和勒夫歐文一起擊敗了勇士、喬丹和皮蓬羅德曼一起拿的三連冠，而吉諾比利，當時只帶著路易斯-斯科拉。

[–]RocketsNietzsche_Darko81 points 18 hours ago

I mean I』ll take Luis Scola and Carlos Delfino over all those scrubs

我說，相比於你說的那些麻瓜，我更願意要斯科拉和德菲爾諾。

[–]SpursMeC019567 points 17 hours ago

Don't you forget Andrés "Chicago Bulls playoffs leading scorer" Nocioni and NBA champion Fabricio Oberto.

別忘記了阿根廷還有「公牛隊季後賽頭號得分手」諾西奧尼和NBA冠軍奧博托！

[–][BKN] Markel Brownlaboratory_koala 10 points 15 hours ago

Golden generation. Doubt we'll ever see the like again.

黃金一代，不知道還能不能看到那樣的盛況

[–]HornetsKeepItRealTV 170 points 17 hours ago

Larry Brown was an idiot who believed that the new players at the time, which included Melo, Wade, and LeBron were ruining basketball. He benched them for being late to practice or some shit.

拉裡布朗就是個蠢貨！他認為勒布朗那代球員是在毀了籃球，他們訓練遲到或者什麼小事就會被布朗按在板凳上。

[–]RaptorsklaysHat 7 points 10 hours ago

To be fair if that helped make them the players they are today then it's worth

但是講道理，那也幫助了他們成為了現如今的樣子。

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[–]pm_me_spider_picz726 points 19 hours ago*

If anyone』s interested, players with higher %』s than Manu but having played less than 1000 games (min 250 games played):

8. Danny Green, 7. Tom Heinsohn, 6. Michael Cooper, 5. KC Jones, 4. Draymond Green (73.45%), 3. Larry Bird (73.58%) , 2. Magic Johnson (73.95%), and no 1. by a decent margin, Kawhi Leonard at 76.41% (after 407 games)

250場以上勝率最高的是：

1 卡哇伊萊昂納德

2 魔術師約翰遜

3 拉里-伯德

3 追夢綠色

5 KC瓊斯

6 邁克爾-這次不是我-庫珀

7 湯姆海因索恩

8 丹尼綠

[–][NYK] Renaldo Balkmanblosweed 84 points 19 hours ago

Damn people forgetting how good Kawhi is

靠夭，人們都忘了萊昂納德有多出色！

[–]76erssuenopequeno 97 points 18 hours ago

He had Manu, Tim Duncan, and Tony Parker on those teams, so that number may be a bit inflated.

他和馬努、鄧肯、帕克在一個隊，他的勝率也許有點水分

[–]BullsDunlocke27 points 17 hours ago

I mean, they also had him. It's all related.

我說，他們也同樣有和他一個隊，這都是相對的。

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[–]LakersKhaski 748 points 20 hours ago

And someone dare to question his HOF status

就這樣，還有人懷疑馬努的名人堂概率（此前有美媒不負責任地預測馬努進名人堂的概率只有52%）。

[–]WarriorsOfficialSamOfTheNBA339 points 19 hours ago

people tend to forget it's the "basketball" hall of fame and not the "NBA" hall of fame. I do think Manu deserves to be in the hall of fame on his NBA accomplishments alone, but when you take his overall basketball accomplishments, he should be in the HOF without question.

人們總是忘記那是「籃球名人堂」而不是「NBA名人堂」。我認為馬努單單是NBA的成就就值得進入名人堂了，而如果算上他整個籃球生涯，那他進入名人堂是沒有懸念的事情！

[–]NBAnizzynba 184 points 18 hours ago

Exactly. 2 time italy MVP, and 1 time champion before he came to the NBA. He's a HoFer and it's not even an argument.

沒錯！進入NBA之前就拿到了2次義大利聯賽MVP、1次總冠軍，他就是名人堂，沒什麼好爭論的。

[–]Spurszeuses_beard 180 points 17 hours ago

Don't forget the gold medal, an insane achievement considering who he played against.

不要忘記他的那枚金牌，考慮到他當時的對手，那是一個很瘋狂的成就！

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